The reason is obvious but I don't know why I'm wasting my time responding to an account that is probably fake. What account screen names do you play on? Do you even play online poker? But the reason is obvious, because they know that they have a winning hand if it checks down and goes to showdown. They also know that the only chance I have to win is to bluff at it. So that's why they don't bet to get you to fold because that would result in less money for them. See a pattern in these scenarios? They all involve the player making more money.

Since all of you claim to be real people and all of you claim to trust these sites. Then please do me a favor. Go ahead and download OBS software. It is free and it is available to everyone with a mac or windows. Record yourself going on to ACR and making a deposit with your own money and start playing a couple hands. That's all I would need to see and then I might believe you. We both know that isn't going to happen don't we? That's because all the people who claim these sites aren't rigged don't play on them. Weird huh?

Yeah you are right, I should just stick to caveman lingo right? "site rigged, me lose money".
Then you wouldn't care that you are being scammed and cheated out of your money right? That's not what happens because you don't play online poker which is why you don't care about it. Because obviously anyone who plays online poker with their own money could care less that they are losing because they are being cheated right?

I have no problem being the guy that you all mock and ridicule if one person reads this and then doesn't put money on any Winning Poker Network site then that would be ok and worth it to me. My goal was to warn others, not tell stories to gain sympathy.

[QUOTE=Mike Haven;Originally Posted by tilter29 View Post
Re: Unofficial Bodog/Bovada/Ignition Thread

Does anyone else think there might be super users there? I have given up bluffing on that site because they always get called by junk. It's always called by junk with a guy who has a huge stack and the last hand I played there the guy called me with J high on the river after I triple barreled with 89s and flopped OESD+flush draw and bricked out. He had a over 370 BB's as well. It's happened too many times.[/QUOTE]

You are right, nothing weird about J-6 calling a river bluff against 8-9. Nothing at all weird about how every bluff attempt is raised. These sites are too greedy and they could make it so less obvious if they didn't do it everytime. If once in a while they folded. Or once in a while they called on the river with the worse hand. Then it would be next to impossible to know for sure. But when they are as greedy as they are, it becomes too obvious.

Ignition is rigged too. I played a session a couple days ago and played 78 hands and never made a hand while the same player made, trips, full houses, sets, flushes, and never folded when I bluffed because I have to bluff to win because they don't give you any hands and that is done intentionally. That's why the tables are anonomous because it's easier to cover up and then people can't identify them by their screen name. It's disguised as a way to protect the player but it's what allows the player to more easily be scammed and cheated.

What are you talking about, you were bluffing with 73 and he folded. Why would he do that?

Didn't see this one before and that's funny. Those things must be real then too if you think someone would have to be crazy to think that. I mean it's crazy to think that an election was stolen from a candidate who had tens of thousands at every one of his rallies, for the first time in my lifetime we had a president that did what was best for the people, for someone who created the greatest economy we'd ever seen, who made prescription drugs affordable, who wasn't tempted by the Brinks Trucks being backed up to his door because he had his own, someone who didn't want to lock you in your homes and wear a mask, someone who tried to secure our borders, and Biden had to have cars parked at his rally to take away from the fact nobody was there. Not to mention that you can gamble at the gas station, you can gamble at the grocery store, but the one place you can't gamble is at Trump Plaza because they wouldn't give him a gaming license. The same people that wouldn't give him a gaming license wouldn't try and do something like not have an honest and fair election right? No that's crazy talk. Just like they kept the UFC out of New York until they were sold to new ownership. That would never happen right? I mean it's obviously a coincedence that for 3 hours all the voting locations in Nevada shut down due to "technical difficulties" right? It would be crazy that these states all decided to stop counting. It makes perfect sense for mail in votes that you get before the election to wait and count them instead of counting them as they came in right? But then you wouldn't know how many that you have to forge though. Because in Nevada, my mail in ballot was just like everyone else's and it said "if you voted for the wrong candidate that is ok, just fill in both circles and draw a line through the one that you didn't want to vote for." That is not at all suspicious is it? Nope, sounds like it is all on the up and up to me. Weird that these states all just happened to find just enough votes for Biden to win. Trump's campaign funds came from the American people, Biden's came from The Joe Biden Foundation. Nothing weird about that right? Nope just all crazy conspiracy theories.

@tilter29:

"I don't know why you decided to be a cheater"

i am not a cheater and would appreciate if you stopped calling me that in the future!

"even though he said he's never played this game type, sure seems weird for him to have an opinion about it. I know I wouldn't tell someone that a hand of Omaha or Stud was played poorly and that's because I don't know how to play those games"

i play NLHE too! no HU 4 me, only 6max sry if i was not clear enough.

I sensed some paranoia from the beginning of this thread, now I can confidently say that... yes you are definitely "over-worried" (No mocking)

A "Narration" is far from "Proof" you should have better included at the very least one of the hands you mentioned in full so the rest of us can review it and have an informed opinion.

Accusing everyone else to be involved just because we don`t believe you...I don`t even know what to say about it.

If you have any proof then share it... even better sent it to the sites.

Again you just seem a bit "over-worried"

Can't play in Australia. But they kept me employed to do this.

So many desillusion ITT... Are you at least a minion ?


BBV has become so patient I'm almost shocked.

Your suggestion of sending to the sites is something that I have done multiple times. Never hear anything back. I would post the HH and the odds and probabilities of each hand and how impossible they were and no response. I know now that it's the site that is the one cheating the players. It's by design and I think they all do it.

Let me just ask a question about the proof part of it because that is a reasonable request and let me just ask what kind of proof would you (or anyone) need to see to take it seriously?

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Edit/MH: PM received: 'Please edit last post with, "I just was up too long and needed some sleep and being up for a day or two makes you think some crazy stuff and makes you paranoid. I am a chronic insomniac so sleep isn't something that I usually get a lot of. I'm going to go to bed, and just need to get back to studying and improving my game. Just another rigtard who just needed a couple hours of zzzz's."'

Throw away your cards the moment you know they can't win. Fold the ****ing hand. Our goal is to win one big bet an hour, that's it

That's exactly right but that wasn't the goal when I thought they could see my hand and so I called because I wanted to see what he was raising with. I don't know how many times I have to say that. I don't understand why the only response I get is about how I misplayed those hands. I never said I played those hands like I normally would. I said specificially I was testing so I was playing out of the norm to see what they'd do. I don't know how many times I have to say that. I obvious didn't think it was proper strategy because again I was testing them so I did things unusual to see what they would do. Everytime I raised with 7-2 I got 3-bet. Everytime I made a c-bet with air I got raised, everytime I had a hand, they folded. One hand I made a flush on the turn and made a min bet $2 into a $32 pot and he folded. After barrelling into me preflop with a 3bet and on the flop w/ a cbet and then I hit my flush to just check fold to a min bet is odd to say the least. This happened several times because I wanted to make sure it was not a fluke thing. They are greedy and they will always 3-bet me when I raised w/ these weak hands as a TEST. Sorry but you can't tell me that that isn't odd.

I'm definitely being levelled.

OP confirmed not real. Still that 2010 join date gives the levelling a lot more cred. Well played sir.

Phew I was afraid I wasn't real for a second.

What are you talking about? I am real and did join in 2010 because that's when I really started playing a lot of online poker. I played rush poker on Full Tilt deposited $20 and built it up to $6500 and then black friday happened. I don't know what you mean by levelling so I couldn't do that even if I wanted to.

So poker wasn't rigged back then?

poker being rigged and one network being rigged are obviously two different things. Not all poker sites are the same or created equal. With your logic then I guess everything is the same. Food is all the same, people are all the same, companies are all the same, cars are all the same ...

Few players recall big pots they have won, strange as it seems, but every player can remember with remarkable accuracy the outstanding tough beats of his career. It seems true to me, cause posting in here, you can hardly remember how you built your bankroll, but you can't stop thinking of how you lost it

All food is just calories to put in your body to survive
All people are equal
All companies create goods and services for us to consume.
All cars are for transport between Point A and B.

Anyway, still waiting on some proof of the superusers. You haven't shown any yet.

This is literally the site someone has proved a superuser before...

I know exactly how I built my roll. I also remember how it was lost. I was foolish and trusted big names in the poker community and this site which is why I didn't quit sooner and why I kept going back to try again. I've seen Rounders 100 times and am fully aware of lines from that movie. A common theme in that movie is cheating. In the end, not cheating and playing straight up allowed the hero to win in the end. That's why the movie is fiction and not a documentary.

I'm not even going to acknowledge that reply because I mean just wow. Now the one thing you said that is reasonable in regards to proof. This is hard to do other than post a couple of hand histories. I brought up the hands in question and the tests I did and you ignored those and mocked me. Which tells me you have no interest in any information I have so you either don't play poker or you already know "poker" is rigged or aren't a real person and are just one of the extra mod accounts used to discredit these claims and make anyone else hesitant about making a post or comment themselves.

I also don't want any trouble, and don't feel like risking everything to try and expose another site that is cheating players. Because of these recent events that took place, I am not going to pursue this any further. It's not worth it, and I'd much rather just not play poker anymore and move on. The message was received loud and clear and I will go away quietly. Because of this recent, what I hope was just a warning, I deleted all my HH and all the sites I played on have been removed from all my devices. It's not worth it. I am not in anyway shape or form accusing anyone at 2+2 for what happened to me, I don't know who is responsible and I honestly don't want to know. I'm also not comfortable sharing what happened. I'm just going to drop it and move on. I'm sure I just don't understand poker, I'm sure I'm just overly paranoid, and I'm sure I was wrong the whole time.

Good work son.

You can't prove poker is rigged by showing two hands.

Particularly when they don't show superusers.

anyone know why they stopped heads up sit and gos on acr?