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02-03-2008 , 07:53 PM
Long Time Lurker, First time poster (obv).

This happened tonight, and gave me an excuse to signup....

First, UTG+1 is an extremely solid player, and I believe he respects my game equally.

BRAG: Flopped FH.....

Party Poker $100 No Limit Hold'em - 10 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $18.38
BTN: $130.92
SB: $70.12
BB: $16.62
UTG: $13.00
UTG+1: $200.81
UTG+2: $22.22
MP1: $20.00
MP2: $104.22
Hero (MP3): $153.41

Pre Flop: Hero is MP3 with K K
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $4, 3 folds, Hero raises to $12, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $8

Flop: ($25.50) J J K (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $14, UTG+1 calls $14

Turn: ($53.50) 3 (2 players)

BEAT: Timed out (accidentally) and hand was mucked

UTG+1 checks
>You have options at Jackpot #1304238 Table!.
Hero bets [$26 USD]
>You have options at Jackpot #1304600 Table!.
>You have options at Jackpot #1304600 Table!.
UTG+1 raises [$52 USD]
>You have options at Jackpot #1304600 Table!.
>You have options at Jackpot #1310423 Table!.
Hero did not respond in time
Hero folds
UTG+1 does not show cards.
UTG+1 wins $128 USD

BRAG: Discussions Led me to find out that UTG+1 had floped QUADS...

Hero: nh
UTG+1: ty
UTG+1: hoped ud got pocket ks
Hero: did u have JJ?
UTG+1: yup
Hero: OMG
Hero: U KNOW WHAT
Hero: I had KK... and I just spend the last 5 mins kicking myself.. I timed out.. OMG
UTG+1: ok
Hero: man.... FACK

VARIANCE: It was a BBJ Table (jackpot ~225K)

My payout if K hits: 225,000*0.7*0.25 = ~40K

My EV for calling:
1*40000 - 45*26 = ~+38.8K

yuk.
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02-03-2008 , 07:56 PM
if this was full tilt its 40k lost

otherwise your good

ft is rigged ftw
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02-03-2008 , 07:58 PM
As the Hand History States... this was Party
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02-03-2008 , 08:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by noledges
My payout if K hits: 225,000*0.7*0.25 = ~40K

My EV for calling:
1*40000 - 45*26 = ~+38.8K
try again

your EV is <$1K
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02-03-2008 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pleasefish
try again

your EV is <$1K
How do you get < $1K ? Can you explain?

I might be wrong, but the way I thought of it...

52 cards - 6 I know = 46 cards unknown. (from my POV)

If I play this hand 46 times in this spot, I lose 45 times x $26 and I win once x $40,000

(Sorry if this is wrong) anyone know the proper way to calculate EV in this spot?
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02-03-2008 , 08:29 PM
1/44 *40k - 43/44 * 26 = 883.68 $
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02-03-2008 , 08:32 PM
LOOL y do u fold FH? idiot
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02-03-2008 , 09:07 PM
UTG+1: ok
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02-03-2008 , 09:13 PM
If this is true; so sick, i would die inside
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02-03-2008 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bulletproof Monk
UTG+1: ok
lol
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02-03-2008 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtylobster
lol
lol'd
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02-03-2008 , 09:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by noledges
My EV for calling:
1*40000 - 45*26 = ~+38.8K
gud maths
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02-03-2008 , 09:22 PM
sick maths
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02-03-2008 , 09:24 PM


Great Maths.
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02-03-2008 , 09:25 PM
Ya, sorry about the maths :P

38.8K / 46 = ~$845

So I guess that means I should have called even if I put him on JJ.
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02-03-2008 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ephialtes
LOOL y do u fold FH? idiot
Quote:
Originally Posted by noledges
BEAT: Timed out (accidentally) and hand was mucked
Reading comprehension FTW.

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Originally Posted by Bulletproof Monk
UTG+1: ok
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Originally Posted by dirtylobster
lol
Indeed.
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02-03-2008 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pfc_ivan12323232


Great Maths.
omg can't stop laughing

A++
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02-03-2008 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pfc_ivan12323232


Great Maths.
wins the thread
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02-03-2008 , 10:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by noledges
Ya, sorry about the maths :P

38.8K / 46 = ~$845

So I guess that means I should have called even if I put him on JJ.
Put him on JJ, lol.
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02-03-2008 , 10:21 PM


OR OP DID THIS MATHS?
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02-03-2008 , 10:24 PM
More ivan please, those are great.
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02-03-2008 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pfc_ivan12323232


Great Maths.
One of the rare occasions I literally lol'd!
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02-03-2008 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pfc_ivan12323232


Great Maths.
Hahaha I LOLd hard
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02-03-2008 , 10:43 PM
Then OP tried to do the math problem again and this happened

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02-03-2008 , 10:46 PM
And those who took Calculus will understant this.



More To Come PPL, ENJOY!
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