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03-16-2010 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary_Neville
I don't see why it should matter so much, but lets just say that the bet ends when I finish 30k hands.
Yeah it doesn't matter that much, just asking out of curiousity...

So is barewire aka KRab42 confirmed as an escrow now?
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03-16-2010 , 12:30 PM
Yes. He is confirmed as an escrow now. Let me know if you have problems with that.

KRab42 on Stars or FTP.
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03-16-2010 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lemming
Yeah it doesn't matter that much, just asking out of curiousity...

So is barewire aka KRab42 confirmed as an escrow now?
Anyone can go ahead and ship to me if you don't have a problem with me escrowing. I'm KRab42 on stars, city chicago. If a problem arises I imagine we'll just find a second escrow to take care of anyone who doesn't send to me. I'll try to confirm in this thread as often as I can but I have a three hour test in a little while so there might be a short delay.
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03-16-2010 , 12:57 PM
3 to 1 is too much for me
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03-16-2010 , 01:00 PM
300 for lemming booked and received
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03-16-2010 , 01:08 PM
Booked at 3-1 to my favor:
terp 3k (or more)
mythrilfox 750
hellokittery 600
lemming 300 (confirmed by escrow)
Pocket Watch 300
BoC34 300

Action still open.
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03-16-2010 , 01:10 PM
3k+750+600+300+300+300 = 5250

you're looking to get $7500 total right? $2250 left?
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03-16-2010 , 01:20 PM
I MAY be interested, but I want one thing clarified... Gary, are there any restrictions on us playing against you? You and I have played plenty of 6max 200NL together on Stars so I'm wondering if I need to stay off the tables with you for the whole day?
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03-16-2010 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Verstehen
I MAY be interested, but I want one thing clarified... Gary, are there any restrictions on us playing against you? You and I have played plenty of 6max 200NL together on Stars so I'm wondering if I need to stay off the tables with you for the whole day?
Nope no restrictions, just as long as you don't angle shoot in any sort of way. I'll have people survey my tables at all times.
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03-16-2010 , 01:27 PM
Yeah I would imagine that because of how many tables he's gonna be running for such a long period of time it's absurd to restrict who can sit. Also, I think it's in our best interest for everyone who participates in this bet to disclose their stars screen name (either on here or via PM to me if you don't want to be outed) so that I can help monitor the potential stalling situation.
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03-16-2010 , 01:38 PM
just checking guys, and yes I would be glad to disclose my info.

Given how many tables gary plays and the fact that lots of us play 50bb min 200NL on stars it just seems inevitable that we'll run into each other. I'm not going to do anything stupid like time down every hand or anything like that, but I agree it's good to have people's SN on record just to confirm.

So the current odds are 3:1 not 2:1?
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03-16-2010 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Verstehen
just checking guys, and yes I would be glad to disclose my info.

Given how many tables gary plays and the fact that lots of us play 50bb min 200NL on stars it just seems inevitable that we'll run into each other. I'm not going to do anything stupid like time down every hand or anything like that, but I agree it's good to have people's SN on record just to confirm.

So the current odds are 3:1 not 2:1?
correct
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03-16-2010 , 01:47 PM
I'll do 1500 to 500 but I'd like a 2nd escrow. I don't doubt that barewire is trustworthy it's just that he knows you IRL and is also vouching for you in this thread.

Edit: I'd also like to see the final stipulations before locking in and escrowing. The OP still says a bunch of rules are subject to change and I haven't seen many of those specifics addressed after the OP in this thread.
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03-16-2010 , 01:55 PM
im moving this to bbv
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03-16-2010 , 01:56 PM
lol I thought it was in bbv
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03-16-2010 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by orange
im moving this to bbv
wasnt that great of a idea sir..

(inb4)
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03-16-2010 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by blackize
I'll do 1500 to 500 but I'd like a 2nd escrow. I don't doubt that barewire is trustworthy it's just that he knows you IRL and is also vouching for you in this thread.

Edit: I'd also like to see the final stipulations before locking in and escrowing. The OP still says a bunch of rules are subject to change and I haven't seen many of those specifics addressed after the OP in this thread.
fwiw i'm not vouching for him im just trying to moderate the stipulations of the bet to show that he's not going to/can't angleshoot it. either way i understand if u want a 2nd escrow. i can try to organize the rules because i think they're basically settled.
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03-16-2010 , 02:04 PM
No webcam wtf? Most of these people are taking a bet due to past track record, being unable to prove it's you playing and not zachvac for 30k hands is a pretty big deal.
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03-16-2010 , 02:12 PM
Posting for bet clarifications and terms

The bet: OP (Gary_Neville, MilitiaRusha on pokerstars) will play 30k hands in 24 hours or less and show a profit before rakeback.

The odds: 3:1 in Gary's favor ($7,500 of bbv's money against $2,500 of Gary's)

The escrow: Me! KRab42 on stars, city is chicago. PM me about sending on FTP but it's not preferred.

Rules:

1. The bet will take place between March 19th 6:00am CET and March 20th 6:00am CET
2. At least 30,000 hands will be played within that time frame. If not, Gary loses the bet
3. At the end of 30,000 hands profit will be totaled, before rakeback. Gary will not have a chance to chase losses beyond 30,000 hands played
4. All hands will be played on pokerstars, under the handle MilitiaRusha, at 200nl 6max tables, either 50bb min or regular. Gary will be full stacked at all points during the 30,000 hands.
5. There will not be a webcam recording, but Gary will not be hidden from search.
6. There is no restriction on how long he plays consecutively, only that he must complete 30,000 hands in the given time frame
7. There is no restriction on who can sit at his tables, but any suspicious activity (i.e. stalling) will be noted and dealt with by appointed judges. All bettors must provide their pokerstars screen name so that judges may monitor their activity on Gary's tables. Any bettor who is determined to have stalled significantly will void the bet.

I just threw this together from reading the thread, but I'll have OP confirm these before they are the *official* rules. This should just clarify now that bbv gets to see the bet. Post any questions or necessary clarifications here.

Also, I'm currently the only escrow but if anyone reputable wants to offer it's much appreciated. If this becomes an issue I'll start PMing some people to see if they're willing. The only thing I've written above that is tenative is the exact start/end time of the bet. It WILL be on march 19th, and it WILL be a 24 hour period, but it might start at 5:00, 7:00, 6:30, whatever. It will be made clear in advance when the first hand is going to be played.

Last edited by Barewire; 03-16-2010 at 02:41 PM. Reason: full stacking
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03-16-2010 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dxu05
No webcam wtf? Most of these people are taking a bet due to past track record, being unable to prove it's you playing and not zachvac for 30k hands is a pretty big deal.
Yea this is actually a pretty big deal. I'm not in touch with OP right now but I'll ask him to consider changing this because it won't be a big issue to set up.
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03-16-2010 , 02:18 PM
Will look into webcam if necessary. Just that I didn't want to have to go through the trouble + I have a crappy webcam.
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03-16-2010 , 02:28 PM
i'm in for 750 to 250

spacecakezzz on stars
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03-16-2010 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary_Neville
Will look into webcam if necessary. Just that I didn't want to have to go through the trouble + I have a crappy webcam.
and you probably look goofy irl. haha i'm just messin.
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03-16-2010 , 02:35 PM
not interested if we're talking about 3:1. 2:1 was a big enough stretch, you can take me off the list and give my action to terp or whoever is interested
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03-16-2010 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Barewire
Posting for bet clarifications and terms

The bet: OP (Gary_Neville, MilitiaRusha on pokerstars) will play 30k hands in 24 hours or less and show a profit before rakeback.

The odds: 3:1 in Gary's favor ($7,500 of bbv's money against $2,500 of Gary's)

The escrow: Me! KRab42 on stars, city is chicago. PM me about sending on FTP but it's not preferred.

Rules:

1. The bet will take place between March 19th 6:00am CET and March 20th 6:00am CET
2. At least 30,000 hands will be played within that time frame. If not, Gary loses the bet
3. At the end of 30,000 hands profit will be totaled, before rakeback. Gary will not have a chance to chase losses beyond 30,000 hands played
4. All hands will be played on pokerstars, under the handle MilitiaRusha, at 200nl 6max tables, either 50bb min or regular. Gary will be full stacked at all points during the 30,000 hands.
5. There will not be a webcam recording, but Gary will not be hidden from search.
6. There is no restriction on how long he plays consecutively, only that he must complete 30,000 hands in the given time frame
7. There is no restriction on who can sit at his tables, but any suspicious activity (i.e. stalling) will be noted and dealt with by appointed judges. All bettors must provide their pokerstars screen name so that judges may monitor their activity on Gary's tables. Any bettor who is determined to have stalled significantly will void the bet.

I just threw this together from reading the thread, but I'll have OP confirm these before they are the *official* rules. This should just clarify now that bbv gets to see the bet. Post any questions or necessary clarifications here.

Also, I'm currently the only escrow but if anyone reputable wants to offer it's much appreciated. If this becomes an issue I'll start PMing some people to see if they're willing. The only thing I've written above that is tenative is the exact start/end time of the bet. It WILL be on march 19th, and it WILL be a 24 hour period, but it might start at 5:00, 7:00, 6:30, whatever. It will be made clear in advance when the first hand is going to be played.
- you should state that all hands need to be played by OP, not just on the same screen name.

- no webcam??

- real life friend being the escrow?

don't get me wrong, but that sounds a little bit shady on first impresion.
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