Try to focus on what you control instead of what you cant.You can try as a challenge not to see your results post session for a week i think it will help you.Gl.

OP. which site is this?

Well, another few weeks of playing and nothing has changed. After running up a few good wins where actual wins actually outpaced EV for a brief time, everything has gone for a **** again. I've played about 5000 hands over the last few weeks and am currently running about 4 buy-ins below EV. So that means over my last 6000ish hands I am running 10 buy-ins below EV and something like 30 buy-ins below EV over 150,000 hands.

This month it is the same old story. A combination of bad beats and huge counterfeits and bad runouts is killing me. Here is just a sample of just today's mollywhoppings:
1- turn a 9 high straight, check raise turn, river makes villains 2-pair into a boat
2- turned A-high straight vs villain who flopped the nut flush
3- Rivered set of Q's beaten by straight
4- flopped top 2 vs set
5- flopped 2-pair (K3) vs villains 2-pair (K4) on the turn
6- flopped set of 5's, get villain (AJo) all-in on the flop of 5 3 J rainbow. He runner runners 2-4 for the straight.


It just goes on and on and on like this. Its like nearly every time I make a premium hand it gets counterfeit in some way or other.

Here is the chart for the last 6000 hands:



This isn't everything but it is the longest span i have record of on this comp:

This is my poker life in a nut shell:

call a UTG open with 67suited on the button. Flop an open ender with a flush draw, re-raise the flop and hit a 6 on the turn. Jam turn, villain calls with a set of 10s. I end up with 2 pair. Like of all the cards in the deck I get a 6 and a 7...


On the day I am now running $260 below EV so that is a little over 5 buy-ins down over about 700 hands..

I like the game and ya, I do quite well in the EV department. But at some point I need to start seeing some actual return on the time. The same pattern repeats itself over and over again: over a given period of time I build up a good amount of winnings and then over a very short run of horrible luck, including bad beats, missed draws and huge counterfeits it all vanishes. I'm getting tired of having to console myself with "at least the EV is good".

Latest one:

3 handed I open A6 and hit trip aces. After a big check raise on the flop and a pot sized bet on the turn thr river brings in 1 to a straight and he has it. He called down with nothing but a gut shot. And ya, I know, he got lucky betting beyond his equity…I know I’m printing EV. I’m ****ing sick of only printing ev.


Every strong hand I make get annihilated.

Btw: I don’t think online poker is rigged. I just have absolutely no luck in games. Like I play backgammon with friends
And they roll like 3:1 the double I do.

Latest machination in the series....turn the nut straight draw and villain jams on me. I call, he has 2 pair and nails the boat on the river. Second time in as many days that I've gotten it all-in on the turn only to be beaten by a boat on the river.

Here is the latest, after just the last 7,000 hands I'm running 12 buy-ins below EV.

I'd recommend that you read this book: The Mental Game of Poker: Proven Strategies for Improving Tilt Control, Confidence, Motivation, Coping with Variance by Jared Tendler

Variance is what makes us so much money yet it also kills us.

Variance has a face and you must make a friend of variance. Variance and moral terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies.

I appreciate you are making a genuine reply, as opposed to the trolls that find themselves funny. But I’d love some variance…some that goes in my direction for a change. Why does the variance always go against me? Why do I perpetually go further and further below ev? Sure I haven’t played a million hands but a few hundred thousand is not a tiny sample. As for the mental side luckily my play doesn’t really get affected. Only my willingness to play!

Played for like a hour or like 150 hands today. So far:

4 bet KK, A hits flop villain jams

Faced 2 straight flushes, one in which I had KK and nailed the K high flush on the river

Top 2 on turn, flush draw comes in. Villain calls 60% pot bet. River brings in the 4-flush and gives villain A high flush.

1010 vs AA not all-in

Only good one for me AK beat QQ all-in pre

This is over 150 goddamned hands.

All I know is it is a good thing players are overly passive checking back too many rivers!

Aside from the bad beats, maybe you are being colluded against? This has the effect of running absurdly under EV because your colluding opponents know when you have less than 13 outs for a flush draw for example.

This seems possible. They said the site they play on doesn't have 100nl so its probably a very small pool maybe on a sketchier site/app.

Maybe filter your graph for pots against opponents you have less than a certain number of hands on, since any colluders having a substantial effect on your winrate probably play a lot.

Just off the top of my head though, you might want to ask people who've actually dealt with collusion.

But why would they get it in bad if colluding against me?

Played a few bands tonight and got another one…open A5 suited from UTG a calls. Board comes our 2 4 5 with flush draw. I bet 3/4 pot he calls. I hit a third 5…long story short villain has 5-4 and I lose it all again

Now I get a guy all in on the flop on the turn and he hits trips on the river to beat me. **** is unbelievable

try PLO

If you're a winning player you'll always run below EV since you only get your money in good

Yes I am a winning player but this whole year has been a grind. A very slow creep upwards in EV. The problem is a never ending run of coolers. I could honestly care less about the bad beats, it is the coolers that get me and they are constant.

Like over the last stretch of like 50 hands I

1) got a maniac to dump 50bb into a pot by the turn with a dominated pair of aces only to have gone river 2pair. Luckily he was passive and I managed to check back the river but another chunk of missed value.

2) got it all in one the turn with a boat, 5s over Kings to have the river bring in a 3rd K giving villains 1010 a higher boat…

3) and the I turned a boat with pocket 2’s to get boat over boated by a dude who flopped a boat with 55.

Again, it’s not the individual instances. Like i got boat over boated - it happens - I’m alway going to get the money in for a bit over 100bb with a boat. It is the frequency with which this stuff happens, and the fact that these super strong hands which should be the hands making me profit are constantly getting beat.

BS you still get in KK vs AA or similar. Nobody on the planet will always get the money in good.

**** is just unbelievable and never stops!

This evening I got:

Boat over set

AK trip aces over boat

Boat over boat

And boat over quads - this one hurt. Raise up AJs and flop comes A A 10 rainbow. Villain calls flop bet, and 5 comes on turn. Villain calls turn bet and another 5 comes on river. I jam and lose to quad 5’s

Lol speak for yourself. I always have the best hand when I'm all in.

It happens but 22 buyins under EV really isnt that much. When I am in a downswing I really just try to pick a part of the game where I Am not confident and focus on studying that, and it always keeps my mind from thinking about running bad.

These 2 are the advice you actually need to listen to OP

It is not 22 anymore and over a much bigger sample size. I haven’t checked in a week or so but it’s close to -30 buy-ins over like 160,000 hands. I ran my stats through the software and if I am reading it right I have something like 18% chance of running this bad or worse.

As for thinking about running bad - I haven’t had a single month since August of 2022 where I’ve run +ev. But as I have said here the EV thing isn’t what is really killing me this year, it is the none stop run of coolers.

Why? You gotta start adding some bluff jams and semi-bluff jams into your repertoire. Like when you open from EP and get a flat caller - whatever cards come out you can expert max pressure bc of your range.

There is plenty of good advice in this thread, yet you keep on complaining and feeling sorry for yourself. Try to improve your game rather than focusing on things you cannot control.

hes trolling u