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Old 10-23-2013, 08:14 PM   #26
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Re: 2013 - 2 million VPP prop bet. 1160000 VPP - 71 days

if we do this on a avg ...

your avg rake should be around $4.50 ish right ?

lets say at worst you avg 60 games per hour and play only 10 hours per day (this is the low end imo)...you will rake $2,700 per day right ...

do the above every day from now onwards for 70 ish days and that should bring you right up to 2 million ? (i think)

The above will be super tough for 99% of people reading this ,but for well trained hyper grinders it is pretty normal imo

i don't think this should be anything over 2-1 (maybe not even 2-1) imo

(all the above is at a low end ,you grit your teeth and do 12 hour days or play a lot higher than the avg buy in you/I said then you could have this done by mid Dec)

Thoughts ???...
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:20 PM   #27
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Re: 2013 - 2 million VPP prop bet. 1160000 VPP - 71 days

Also, it kinda looks like if you are losing the bet you can just get yourself banned? Or is that a normal stipulation in these bets?
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:59 PM   #28
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Re: 2013 - 2 million VPP prop bet. 1160000 VPP - 71 days

Gl dude. 10+ hrs a day til the end of the year, your gf must be thrilled.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:45 PM   #29
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Re: 2013 - 2 million VPP prop bet. 1160000 VPP - 71 days

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if we do this on a avg ...

your avg rake should be around $4.50 ish right ?

lets say at worst you avg 60 games per hour and play only 10 hours per day (this is the low end imo)...you will rake $2,700 per day right ...

do the above every day from now onwards for 70 ish days and that should bring you right up to 2 million ? (i think)

The above will be super tough for 99% of people reading this ,but for well trained hyper grinders it is pretty normal imo

i don't think this should be anything over 2-1 (maybe not even 2-1) imo

(all the above is at a low end ,you grit your teeth and do 12 hour days or play a lot higher than the avg buy in you/I said then you could have this done by mid Dec)

Thoughts ???...
I made about the same calculations, I think around 10 hours on average every day is a realistic estimation yes, but in December there are a few (holi)days where I can't make it close to 10 hours. And this is all without a single day off.

Of course I think that is doable, but not as easy as 2:1, when I came up with 2.75:1 I thought about these things:

Jorj95 3.7m
shabalinvlad 3.25m
MouldyOnions and AWice both have under 3m I believe.
This must be the top 4 for the year at SnGs, with the last 3 playing the same cash hypers, with a higher abi tho and they are all better players than I am.

In 2011 I started playing online poker and got 200k vpp, last year I started playing full time and had a really tough time making 1m. So this is just my second year as a pro. Also I'm not used to playing the highest stakes and my bankroll took a pretty big hit with my last downswing.

Having said all this, I would like to hear other opinions about it though.

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Also, it kinda looks like if you are losing the bet you can just get yourself banned? Or is that a normal stipulation in these bets?
It would 'cost' me way more if I could never play again because I got banned so I wouldn't have to pay a bet, but I understand that you are saying this since I'm totally new here.
Also I'm sure the judge(s) could make the fair decision if anything like that would happen.

About the dog rule, I see it is kind of strange to post the death of a dog in the same sentence as parents passing away. So that rule is off the table.
He's immortal anyway
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:50 PM   #30
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Re: 2013 - 2 million VPP prop bet. 1160000 VPP - 71 days

Also I think it is fair when I post all the bets in this topic so you have an overview of the total bets.

-Lex Veldhuis 2k.
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Old 10-24-2013, 01:48 PM   #31
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2-1 $10,000 to win $5,000 ???
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:10 PM   #32
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Are you offering my 10k vs your 5k?
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:57 PM   #33
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Well ,I will be putting up $10k ...so you will risk $5k to win $10k right ?
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:57 PM   #34
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:04 PM   #35
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:11 PM   #36
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Well ,I will be putting up $10k ...so you will risk $5k to win $10k right ?
Ok, I see. Looked at bit like you meant it the other way around.
Thanks for the offer, give me a moment to think about it please.
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:10 PM   #37
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Re: 2013 - 2 million VPP prop bet. 1160000 VPP - 71 days

Talked to demetri1978 on Skype and we agreed about his 10k versus my 5k.

Bets with a minimum of 5k can be placed at 2:1.
Could a mod edit this in my OP please.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:49 PM   #38
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Done
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:01 PM   #39
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if your dog dies, the bet is void?
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:07 PM   #40
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No, see post #29.

Thanks wafflehouse1.
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:30 PM   #41
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Hey Guys, I am really sorry about this, being that it's 50/50 I make it to 2000000 with just a few days to go, but as per rule 7, unfortunately I have some bad news...

(MNSFW....)

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But as a good will gesture I am willing to void all bets. All the best for the New Year.

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Old 10-25-2013, 09:23 PM   #42
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:01 AM   #43
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Re: 2013 - 2 million VPP prop bet. 1160000 VPP - 71 days

what happens if you murder your dog?
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Old 10-26-2013, 12:53 PM   #44
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It is all in the thread.
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Old 10-27-2013, 07:57 AM   #45
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Re: 2013 - 2 million VPP prop bet. 1160000 VPP - 71 days

srs business this maffia dude!
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:35 PM   #46
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Re: 2013 - 2 million VPP prop bet. 1160000 VPP - 71 days

So.. how far are you now?
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:47 PM   #47
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:48 PM   #48
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Re: 2013 - 2 million VPP prop bet. 1160000 VPP - 71 days

OK recap before the last day.

Yeargraph:


Month:


After the beginning of this topic, although the first ~470 games were played the night before I went to bed before I started this thread, so it actually starts where the profit line hits 0.



With the 12k I have booked now I don't think I'm going to do the challenge. But I am still eager to do this, so I'm still looking for action.
Because of this I will lower the odds for everybody to 2:1 and I'll extend the deadline for bets with one day.

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Old 10-27-2013, 09:55 PM   #49
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The previous bet made with Lex will also be lowered to 2:1.

-10k demetri1978
-2k Lex Veldhuis
-400 Mecastyles
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:39 PM   #50
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200 plz
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