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01-23-2011 , 10:17 AM
Impressive, good job !
It would be very interesting to see results of 1m1m of some higher limits.
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01-23-2011 , 10:20 AM
Amazing, now do that at NL100-200.
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01-23-2011 , 10:22 AM
sick life brah... inspires to get in the grind mode again, since i ve been lazy after the holidays.
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01-23-2011 , 02:25 PM
chiren,

have you ever thought to actually make something out of your life? I mean, do you go out?
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01-23-2011 , 03:40 PM
To prove poker is a game of skill it would be easy to get a list of 1000 online players that showed a profit every month for 12 months in the year 2010.
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01-23-2011 , 05:31 PM
It makes no sense to me how this guy can attempt to help poker by proving a point, yet people still hate him.

Yes. It's not hard to beat NL2- this was for demonstration purposes, and I can also guarantee most of you dont make 3k a month from poker.

So his NL2 grind > you.
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01-23-2011 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thebottle
To prove poker is a game of skill it would be easy to get a list of 1000 online players that showed a profit every month for 12 months in the year 2010.
Not over 1M hands it wouldn't. And certainly not with 0 losing sessions, or even days.
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01-23-2011 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackrabbit Slim
Not over 1M hands it wouldn't. And certainly not with 0 losing sessions, or even days.

yes, that made your argument stronger.... oh wait
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01-23-2011 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
It makes no sense to me how this guy can attempt to help poker by proving a point, yet people still hate him.

Yes. It's not hard to beat NL2- this was for demonstration purposes, and I can also guarantee most of you dont make 3k a month from poker.

So his NL2 grind > you.
Some validity to what you're saying, but some people would rather not spend all those hours grinding for that 3k. It's okay to hate on someone even if you don't accomplish what it is they accomplished DUCY.
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01-23-2011 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by insyder19
chiren,

have you ever thought to actually make something out of your life? I mean, do you go out?


wow insyder you are so famous and such a good player. your such a baller why you need to hate?
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01-23-2011 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by EVplusEV
Gj , well done.

But please calling this science or doing this FOR science is nothing but delusional
successfully leveled
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01-23-2011 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by loK2thabrain
Some validity to what you're saying, but some people would rather not spend are incapable of all those hours grinding for that 3k. It's okay to hate on someone even if you don't accomplish what it is they accomplished DUCY.
ducy?
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01-24-2011 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by loK2thabrain
Some validity to what you're saying, but some people would rather not spend all those hours grinding for that 3k. It's okay to hate on someone even if you don't accomplish what it is they accomplished DUCY.
Why would you hate someone for doing something you would rather not do?
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01-24-2011 , 12:35 AM
^^^ hes obv extremely jelly, probably because hes a breakeven/losing player and to see someone crush the lowest stakes while he continuously fails must hurt.
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01-24-2011 , 12:43 AM
jelly haters ITT
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01-24-2011 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by thebottle
To prove poker is a game of skill it would be easy to get a list of 1000 online players that showed a profit every month for 12 months in the year 2010.
not to be a nit but this wouldnt prove anything. i could "prove" that flipping coins is a matter of skill by finding 1000 people who have flipped 1000 heads in a row if the player pool is large enough. considering how large the online player pool is 1000 people could in theory just be statistical noise. a better argument is probably showing the similarity of playing styles among all the winners and the same for all the losers. something basic like, people who play less than 30% of hands are x times more likely to show a profit than those who dont.
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01-24-2011 , 01:43 AM
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01-24-2011 , 01:46 AM
The fact that you can do this without ripping your eyes out is simply amazing. It will most likely fall on deaf ears since America has so many more important problems than poker legislation. But every effort counts, which I'm sure 2p2 can appreciate.

2k at nl2 in 1month...ugh. That's insane.
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01-24-2011 , 02:58 AM
Just dont come up to 5nl on stars. Ill wreck your whole challenge.
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01-24-2011 , 03:29 AM
Chiren, I'm with Set You Straight Poker Talk Radio as the media correspondent for the show. I've just started covering the legislation and think it's awesome that you are doing this! Would you be willing to interview following your release of the report? I can ship you questions via email as well. I'd love to write about this and/or post an interview on our site at www.setyoustraightpoker.com!
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01-24-2011 , 06:22 AM
you can make 110Mirrion by playin 500/1000
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01-24-2011 , 07:00 AM
He charges 100bb for interviews
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01-24-2011 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TristarPoker
wow insyder you are so famous and such a good player. your such a baller why you need to hate?
because I don't understand why you waste your life by playing 1 mil hands of meaningless poker stakes.

if he read 1 mil pages from classic books, i would ship him 1k.
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01-24-2011 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiren
With the current state of the poker legislation in the US and with the threatening misconception around poker being gambling instead of a skill game, I wondered what I could do to raise awareness around these issues that could have severe consequences for all pokerplayers.

In order to poke the attention of a mainstream audience that doesn't care about poker I needed to do something spectacular. Since i already promised to do one million hands in one month, I thought it would be a good option, but wanted to do something extra in order to highlight the skill aspect of the game. So i picked the microstakes and aimed to make more then 1000 Buy In's in one month. I didn't want to turn it into some kind of personalized promostunt and therefore chose not to livestream it.

Since I have been very focussed on my scientific research last year and will keep pursuing this the coming year, combined with poker being legalized in belgium, I will inevitably be a lot less active as a pokerplayer and likely not be able to maintain my duties as an active online pro for pokerstars. I placed a video online where I explain most of it ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zff2lXomyfE ), together with the record as I hope people will get more involved in getting poker legalized in a correct way. I myself will send a report of the challenge, to the responsible department in the US and President Obama, where I explain how winning at a steady rate involves more then just luck.

I'm aware that 2nl doesn't require as much skill as higher stakes, but I only did it to make a statement.

Some extra data for those who are interested:

I had a very strict workflow, sleeping 8 hours a day, showering when I woke up and make sure I ate very well. If it wasn't for Tania bringing me food and taking care of all the other stuff I wouldn't have been able to do it. I played 40k hand sessions at the start, then 31k sessions but had to change it at the end due to ev downswings and an unimaginable high amount of bad beats as I wanted to make sure i had no losing sessions. I didn't take any drugs to maintain the high volume, and kept a healthy pacing to keep myself from going insane.

I had 31 winning sessions, made more then 1000 buy ins while being 100buy in's below ev and payed around 1800$ rake (18000vpp's). Many people experience similar ev-downswings in the same amount of hands but in a year time instead of a few days when starting poker and never get to know that they were actually winning players. I hope to inspire thoose people and also show how making a living from 2nl if you'd go hardcore is actually possible, although mixing it up with flipping burgers at mac d's might be a nice strategy to avoid getting bored.

I made at 2nl more then what the top winners on 25nl make a month and close to what the top 50nl winners make. In total i won 2000Buy In's or 4000$ from players including the rake paid with the average stack at the tables being 2$ and got three royal flushes in the process.

If you have any questions i'll be checking the thread now and again to answer them.



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no livestream = didn't happen
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=163

Last edited by norakeback; 01-24-2011 at 01:00 PM.
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01-24-2011 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jubes
yes, that made your argument stronger.... oh wait
Many players who do 1M+ hands probably play more than one session per day. Because of that, it is harder to have 0 losing sessions than it would be to have 0 losing days. How is that hard to understand?
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