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08-29-2022 , 09:00 PM

JayKon

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9 players $15 each, $130 pot preflop.

Hero on the button with T2o

Flop JT2r

Checked to MP1 ($225) who bets $40.
MP2 ($900) quickly calls.
Folded to Hero on the button ($350).

Pot $210, will be $250 if I call, leaving $310 behind. So I shove.
MP1 calls quickly and MP2 tanks for 2 minutes, then calls.

Turn is a Q and MP2 tables AK, MP1 shows AA.

The part that bothered me was that I thought MP2 was a decent player. Clearly, I was wrong.

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08-29-2022 , 09:43 PM

Polarbear1955

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Originally Posted by JayKon

It appears MP2 decided that he had 10 clean outs vs you and possibly 7 clean outs vs the short stack. Don't know you or the other player well enough to know if this was reasonable to believe.

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08-29-2022 , 10:25 PM

JayKon

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Originally Posted by Polarbear1955

It appears MP2 decided that he had 10 clean outs vs you and possibly 7 clean outs vs the short stack. Don't know you or the other player well enough to know if this was reasonable to believe.

That was the best I could figure. However, at least in my room, a flop shove in a bomb pot is almost always 2-pair, or a set. I thought he knew that.

Only posted it because it's the latest of my run bad. I keep getting my money in as a 60% favorite, or better and getting drawn out on. Then when I commit with TP, TK, NFD, I wiff.

Been losing $100 - $300 a session for a couple of weeks now.

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08-29-2022 , 11:19 PM

chillrob

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You might not run as bad if you played real poker instead of bomb-pot roulette. That's got to be more variance than any other kind of poker.

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08-29-2022 , 11:41 PM

JayKon

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Originally Posted by chillrob

You might not run as bad if you played real poker instead of bomb-pot roulette. That's got to be more variance than any other kind of poker.

Oh, wow, now that was helpful! Gee Wiz fella, you so smart (ass).

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08-30-2022 , 03:30 AM

chillrob

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Originally Posted by JayKon

Oh, wow, now that was helpful! Gee Wiz fella, you so smart (ass).

You're playing a crazy high variance form of poker with more luck involved than any other and complaining about the variance. Seems kinda silly. But I don't frequent this forum much, maybe advice is frowned upon here. If you're just looking for sympathy for bad beats, then "Aw man, sorry your T2 lost against AA and AK, that's Doyle Brunson's favorite hand!"

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08-30-2022 , 08:39 AM

jelloman

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Originally Posted by JayKon

Oh, wow, now that was helpful! Gee Wiz fella, you so smart (ass).

You were getting solid advise there, Jay. Stick to hold em and stop playing bingo if you don't like the variance.

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08-30-2022 , 08:56 AM

moremore

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Nice call OTB

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08-30-2022 , 12:26 PM

JayKon

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Originally Posted by chillrob

It's a friggin bomb pot, played once a half hour on dealer change.

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08-30-2022 , 04:53 PM

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ejames209

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fold pre

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08-30-2022 , 05:28 PM

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JayKon

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Originally Posted by ejames209

fold pre

It seems no one here knows what a bomb pot is.

Everyone puts in $15 before the cards are dealt. Then the flop comes out and the action starts.

Therefore, flopping two pair is a very good hand.

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08-30-2022 , 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JayKon

Everyone puts in $15 before the cards are dealt.

why would you do that? you don't even know what cards you're gonna get

Last edited by Sheep86; 09-01-2022 at 04:52 AM. Reason: Fixed quote tag

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08-30-2022 , 06:18 PM

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JayKon

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Originally Posted by ejames209

why would you do that? you don't even know what cards you're gonna get

Because some of us gamble less than others, therefore we gain an advantage. Beyond that, I don't know for sure where and how it started, but it has. Bomb pots are frequently very large, like $1,000+ large (in a 1/3). So, you're rolling the dice for $15, to potentially win a lot.

As to this hand, the guy that won it was better than a 4:1 dog, while I was a 2:1 favorite. While the result was frustrating, I did like the action.

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08-31-2022 , 03:31 AM

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chillrob

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Originally Posted by JayKon

It seems no one here knows what a bomb pot is.

Everyone puts in $15 before the cards are dealt. Then the flop comes out and the action starts.

Therefore, flopping two pair is a very good hand.

I know what a bomb pot is. I didn't previously know that it was just once per down. But still, if the variance is bothering you, I imagine you would be allowed to sit out those hands. I probably would do so.

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08-31-2022 , 07:34 AM

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pierrot_63_97

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Originally Posted by JayKon

Everyone puts in $15 before the cards are dealt. Then the flop comes out and the action starts.

Therefore, flopping two pair is a very good hand.

Two pair is a worst hand in a bomb pot than in a normal NLHE pot though...

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08-31-2022 , 11:56 AM

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JayKon

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Originally Posted by chillrob

Wow, just wow. Getting this hand treated like it was posted in a strategy forum was unexpected. I was of the understanding that BBV was a place one went to vent a little. Silly me.

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08-31-2022 , 04:04 PM

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ejames209

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You can't play GTO in bomb pots so I would just avoid them altogether

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10-21-2022 , 06:22 AM

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DonkFishy

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Originally Posted by ejames209

why would you do that? you don't even know what cards you're gonna get

Haha love you man

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10-22-2022 , 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JayKon

The part that bothered me was that I thought MP2 was a decent player. Clearly, I was wrong.

He won the hand didn't he?

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10-22-2022 , 09:26 AM

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I've often seen these people, these squares at the table, short stack and long odds against them. All their outs gone. One last card in the deck that can help them. I used to wonder how they could let themselves get into such bad shape, and how the hell they thought they could turn it around.

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10-22-2022 , 11:51 AM

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JayKon

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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker

He won the hand didn't he?

Results oriented thinking from a mod?

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10-22-2022 , 12:37 PM

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fidstar-poker

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If you know, you know.

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10-22-2022 , 02:01 PM

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King Fish

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I think somebody needs to be told.

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10-22-2022 , 03:04 PM

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fidstar-poker

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He knew.

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