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Old 06-20-2008, 06:56 AM   #101
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Re: 08 so far...

it just occurred to me that this happening a year ago when the graph software didn't exist = nobody would believe you (including you) and you'd long since have quit poker by now.

which means there's a good chance you are *actually* the most unlucky player in the online poker world to still be playing 80K hands later. congratulations!
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:00 AM   #102
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Re: 08 so far...

epic

how many keyboards have you smashed?
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:27 AM   #103
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it just occurred to me that this happening a year ago when the graph software didn't exist = nobody would believe you (including you) and you'd long since have quit poker by now.

which means there's a good chance you are *actually* the most unlucky player in the online poker world to still be playing 80K hands later. congratulations!
I remember a few threads in the past where someone has posted a huge graph with like a 100k breakeven streak of hands, that person insisited he just ran bad, whilst everyone else was convinced he just played bad and then fixed a leak or summit.

Also, im still in the camp that the program is flawed and there is something we arent seeing - i still dont believe
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Old 06-20-2008, 08:09 AM   #104
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Old 06-20-2008, 08:11 AM   #105
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Re: 08 so far...

wow.

Those graphs are bad.

you should consider quitting you are clearly a fish.
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Old 06-20-2008, 08:29 AM   #106
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wow.

Those graphs are bad.

you should consider quitting you are clearly a fish.

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Old 06-20-2008, 08:49 AM   #107
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Re: 08 so far...

lol i had a similar run, get someone to sweat you, and keep trying i guess. its soulcrushing.
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Old 06-20-2008, 09:18 AM   #108
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Re: 08 so far...

move down, plug the leaks and move back up w/confidence on your side.
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Old 06-20-2008, 09:45 AM   #109
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move up to where they respect your equity??

Sick run dude, you'll pull through though. Reminds me of my 450 ptbb downswing at LHE
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Old 06-20-2008, 09:50 AM   #110
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Re: 08 so far...

Yo Slugger,

To discuss this more with you I think the best means you can take is a lawyer. It almost worked for me. Your account is obviously rigged and you are part of a Truman Show fixed operation. They are messing with you and you don't realize you are part of a large and sick experiement.

Press charges.
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Old 06-20-2008, 09:58 AM   #111
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Re: 08 so far...

Also if you go that route I might be able to get you a good lawyer. Better yet you have access to a whole supply of graphs and hands.

It beats Word Documents which my lawyer wasn't really trusting.

Your defense could be backed up with solid Academia proof, mine was more Wikipedia style.
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Old 06-20-2008, 09:59 AM   #112
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Yo Slugger,

To discuss this more with you I think the best means you can take is a lawyer. It almost worked for me. Your account is obviously rigged and you are part of a Truman Show fixed operation. They are messing with you and you don't realize you are part of a large and sick experiement.

Press charges.
this.

obviously when they turned the doomswitch on your account the person who did it got fired and never told anyone it was still on. i would suggest first emailing support and asking if they aware they left your doomswitch on this long.
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:09 AM   #113
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He's going to have the sickest upswong EVER. And when he does he should move up as quickly as possible. He may be the opposite of grimstarr.
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:18 AM   #114
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Re: 08 so far...

I have something similar at NL50 over 150k hands.


At hand 80k, I was so happy, but it didnt last for too long.....



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Old 06-20-2008, 10:18 AM   #115
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how can that be real. i dont understand. seriously, thats BY FAR the worst graph i have ever seen. disgusting.
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:27 AM   #116
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Re: 08 so far...

I am starting to doubt the accuracy of these EV graphs... everyone seems to run well below expectation.
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:35 AM   #117
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wow. the karma gods, they hate you?

seriously, that's sick
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:37 AM   #118
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Re: 08 so far...

in before busto
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:41 AM   #119
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Re: 08 so far...

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I am starting to doubt the accuracy of these EV graphs... everyone seems to run well below expectation.
Nah its just that the people on insane heaters don't use them.
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:44 AM   #120
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Re: 08 so far...

jesussssss this is sick. and you've maintained your roll with 50nl? ugh. try 200nl
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:44 AM   #121
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go play 200/400, you're due imo
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:54 AM   #122
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so sick
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Old 06-20-2008, 11:04 AM   #123
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Re: 08 so far...

Wow
Just wow
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Old 06-20-2008, 11:06 AM   #124
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Re: 08 so far...

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I believe thats the probability of that happening. The curve shows your probability of winning that amount at any point on the graph. At its highest point you had a 40% chance of winning like, 1200, which is probably where you should be, or you could be at like a .005% chance of winning 6000 on th other side of the graph. Your on the left though, and .0039 is the percent of you winning that amount (or technically losing in your case).

Summary thats like the probability of getting 1 outer'd, on the river, 3 times in a row, or so.
Why isn't the highest point of the graph at 50%? Isn't he equally as likely to run good as he is to run bad?
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Old 06-20-2008, 11:57 AM   #125
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Re: 08 so far...

This is quite entertaining....Like I said before, once in a while I'll send a vent post to fulltilt and let them feel my frustration. I figured why not send them a link to this thread and maybe if they realize the entire poker community feels sorry for me, maybe they would show some grace.....

me:
> Original Message Follows:
> ------------------------
> https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=230387
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> Thanks for the wonderful run this year Full Tilt. It has been nice to
> get robbed on the turn and river for 6 straight months.
>
>


FT:
> Hello Zachary,
>
> Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.
>
> As an avid poker player, I certainly understand your frustrations with bad beats and general negative variance. I have myself been through prolonged streaks of both good and bad luck.
>
> Please be assured that our shuffle is random.
>
>
> Understand that there is no "doom switch" but there certainly is statistical variance. It is only when speaking of tens of thousands of hands that personal statistics begin to approach its theoretical expectation. For players that play this game for a living, it is imperative that they keep a very large bankroll to endure such fluctuation. It is often the level of honesty that separates an excellent player from someone who is merely above average.
>
> I strongly suggest that you visit the poker forums in the link below; it is the largest poker forum that is visited by many poker enthusiasts such as yourself, and is an unbiased third party to our site (and any other poker sites in business). I believe that the voice of the general poker community will be more persuasive in dissuading you of your belief that online poker is rigged.
>
> https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/
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> On behalf of Full Tilt Poker, I wish you the best of luck at the tables. Should you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthew G
> Full Tilt Poker Support

me:
Matthew thanks for the reply. Yes, I've heard of twoplustwo.com, I am
a well-known member there and I made this post there on how I have run
on full tilt: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=230387
. I guess I just need to vent to someone. If there is any chance,
any chance at all that FullTilt aknowledges that I am a valuable
player to the site who has played over 250,000 hands on the site, and
realizes that I've been dealt a terrible run of cards, maybe you guys
could throw me a bone and give me some sort of "bad beat" bonus. I am
quite sure that I am in the top .01% of players in terms of running
bad. Anyways, thanks for wishing me good luck and the quick response.
Here's to you Full Tilt.

-sluggger5x

FT:
Hello Zachary,

Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.

I did have a look at your graph Zachary, and I will admit it looks to be one of the worst I have seen. We do apologize for the bad run of cards, it appears you are experiencing.

With that being said, unfortunately we do not offer a promotional bonus for players just because they are unable to win consistently at a certain limit.

What I can offer you, should be far more valuable and rewarding though. The doom switch on your account has been turned off and it is now completely up to you, on wether or not you win or lose. Start playing with some confidence again Zachary and most importantly stay positive. I can tell by the statistics under your account that you are a decent winning Poker player.

So if you decide to continue your play on Full Tilt Poker, I would like to wish you the best of luck on the tables. Also, please don't hesitate to contact us if there is anyway we can be of assistance.

Regards,

Matthew G



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