Prove it isn't. Oh, wait. You can't.

Yet:

1) In order to maxmize profits while avoiding alienating their customers, pachinko parlours in Japan knowingly rig their machines to favour fixed losses or gains of a certain degree (even being able to set the percentage of losses or gains that the machine puts out), and scatter the different settings of riggedness throughout the machines in the parlour each and every day. This is an idea that can easily be applied to online poker sites, as they are both electronic platforms and have complex structures on the inside, whether those structures be mechanical parts or stems of code.

And if you have a well-paid team of very smart, very mathematically prowessed programmers designing the algorithms, I'm sure there's a way to apply a similar system to online poker programs so that variance, or EV calculations at the very least, do even out to some plausible degree over some sort of volume of hands that the average player will never play in . I've played a million hands myself and have yet to see a heater last more than 600-800 hands. And I'm pretty content with even just calling a situation where all my solid hands hit solid cards postflop and hold up in most big pots a heater for me, personally. Maybe I just run that bad at [s]rigged[/s] online poker.

2) Even if you take away the deception that the game is fair towards everyone, you can't take away people's desires for thrills, excitement, and fun. And if they don't care much to be smart with their money, you can't just take away their disregard for money so easily, either. This is why so many people are so content with mediocre excuses like, "why would they risk alienating their entire player base?" and automatically believe that there's no way online poker could possibly be rigged and the sites running the programs would get away with it at the same time. And it's just human nature to want money, which is why online poker sites would actually want See #1 to figure out how you rig a game with everyone knowing and still make it one of the most popular real-money games in its respective culture -- and we're talking about a country where real-money gambling of any sort is illegal.

3) Not to mention many people would mindlessly trust the words of a faceless "third-party" company -- companies that most of us have never actually heard of in particular -- who goes to say that these sites are completely legitimate. I'm only being given someone's word on it. Someone who I can't trust, especially based on what they say alone -- where's the objective pieces of evidence that led you to make this conclusion? Why can't I get to see these things?

4) And where's this computer that monitors the random noise in the air for its RNG anyways? I have no doubt that such a machine would exist at all, but why should I just believe that online poker sites really use them if that machine is ? This hypothetical RNG does not involve using a top-secret piece of equipment, I'm pretty sure, so why can't I at least see a video of it in its mammothly stature while a staff member shows us how it works? Perhaps because it doesn't exist?

tl;dr - There's no reason to not be a skeptic about blocks of code that take your money. Show me concrete evidence that online poker isn't rigged, since if it isn't rigged, said evidence would definitely exist.

+1

Wait, bad math.

-1

In b4 merge

What math? This is just common sense and logic in conjunction with a complete lack of evidence that poker isn't rigged.

Think about it. Certain people throughout the poker scene have caught on to deeper aspects of the mathematical portion of the game over the years and now know how to calculate tangible factors based directly on the luck involved. Hence, if online poker sites rigged their games, this becomes their main concern to getting exposed (especially after 2p2 caught Hamilton cheating on UB). What do you do? Throw money at a group of math wizards and coders to make the game while rigged while appearing fair. Not to mention that casinos always have and always will look to make the biggest amount of dollars, quarters, dimes, nickels, and even pennies they can off their customer, and so people should know better than to actually feel so certain that online poker isn't rigged.

No one's succeeded in exposing the aristocracy that calls the shots behind the scenes in world politics either. That doesn't mean that Obama isn't just a figurehead who randomly introduces free health care -- and to a country of 300 million people that clearly can't afford to after the War On Iraq cost taxpayers over 2 trillion dollars (is it 3 now, actually? I'm not sure) -- as a cover-up for all the spending that the US will be doing away from the public eye in order to collaborate in eventually force-feeding the world currency to the masses.

IMO

http://www.youtube.com/user/magic612

This guy above is the op's soulmate.
Pretty rare to see 2007 members jumping into poker is rigged fray.

You been taking some bad beats or what?

Niice. One player with a 4.5 million hand sample size on one site. Care to provide any more bad examples?

I dont know


But live is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy more fun


=)

For only a million hands, over 5 different sites, and in the course of 3 1/2 years, yeah.

IMO


EDIT: OP IMO

If you give it a thought, you will clearly see that it all makes sense.
If a bad player is constantly losing he will eventually leave the site. But winning some flips where he is miles behind will give him the thrill of gambol and "Hell I'll reloa' three fiddy 'morrow *spitting in his cup* ". Making people deposit is crucial for every poker site and the living ATMs must be kept around. All money comes from micro, so hillbillies/is(???) have to be entertained before having their money taken away.
On the other hand, regulars will play on and on because it's just a downswing and they learned that putting volume will bring them from 40BI under EV to +2BI over EV.
But what you gonna do? Players gonna play and flippers gonna flip.

All these are speculations because nothing can be proven, there is no transparency.

isn't there a riggies forum for this chit?

I'm about to tell you something OP that will blow your mind. You ready? There is no such thing as "true randomness".

So how much did OP lose?

Are you really trying to justify a complete lack of evidence that isn't just empirical data by bringing up entropy? Really?

This is why the industry has so easily persuaded the majority to believe that a block of code cannot be written to make a unfair game that's seemingly fair. You actually think the math is the only important factor here when there are ways for programmers to effectively veil the riggedness, which makes a solely mathematical/empirical argument a pretty shallow argument.

stop playing online poker then ******

I'm not sure why I bother. Graphs from the best 5 players in my games in no particular order:

KK all in pre flop vs KT (straight)

**** YOU ALL POKER NO LIFE IDIOTS

O rly

IDIOTOS


PUDRAS MADRES


GET A ****ING CAR BITCHES

too late axe in car

HAHA YOU ****ING IDIOTO

RUNNING WITH 0 LEGS NO ARMS

I try to high five u but u have no arms

ok i give up