20/40. I am UTG+1 or UTG+2 with KK.

Villain on my right opens. I do not have a ton of history with him, but I understand him by reputation to be a very solid, winning player. His EP opening range is likely very standard.

I 3! next in. Player on my left, who is essentially your typical loose-passive with poor hand-reading skills, calls, along with 2 other players in late position. Villain calls.

Flop: T 8 4 (~13 SB). Villain checks, I bet, all 3 behind me call, Villain raises, I 3!, player on my left and villain call.

Turn: T 8 4 T (~12BB). Villain checks, I bet, guy on left calls, Villain raises.

Check turn

As played, call and hope guy on left isn't slowplaing turned flush. Maybe you have 4 outs. Maybe just two.

UTG should cap the flop with TT's and 88's. Trip Tens makes the most sense, a flush is certainly possible. He would cap JJ's+ pre wouldn't he?

Why hope the guy on the left doesn't have a flush? You're definitely behind at least one of the players anyway, it's better for hero if he has a flush than a Ten.

I agree with checking the turn. As played I guess you're priced in so you have to call and hope no one has a Ten so you have 4 outs and not just 2.

I was thinking the guy on the left might back raise with a flush, however, This is less likely with the board paired and he's not a good hand reader.

Played fine. Call down.

No way. Turn bet is terrible. Th is one of the two worst cards in the deck for hero.

I'd rather check/call the turn then bet and face action behind with a hand as strong as ours.

That's my sentiment. I bet at game speed and immediately regretted it (before the k/r came).

+1

Pot is too bloated and giving free card on this turn when we dont have a seems disastrous.

Tough spot but I think you played it well.

Bad beats happen especially against the horrendous regs our 20/40 half kill game has sans the few exceptions (1-2 I think).

Unless these are from 20/40 in a different state and not the 20/40 Hammond game lineups.

Do you really think you are likely ahead after this turn card? I don't know the particular game you guys are playing in, but I would think it is way more likely that hero is behind and would be glad to get a free card myself if I were him.

I'm pretty sure you're right but regs in 20/40 half kill game that OP described as Loose Passive are like 80 - 90 VPIP 5 pfr mega fish which this player pool has at least 4 -6 that play every single week 2 - 3 times a week.

In my opinion these are the best 20/40 half kill games in the world although some players did bust from what I heard unless OP moved or went to another state for vacation.

It just seems very unlikely after that flop action that neither villain had top pair or a flush draw (or a set or tens up).

As I said, I think you're probably right. If anything I play more closer to chk/call turn as default but the 20/40 half kill game lineup near Hammond Horseshoe uses to be and still is that juicy according to a good friend of mine who crushes it.

I would personally bet / call turn based on who Loose Passivd fish is but way too many I can think of that are probably losing like -5 to -10 BB/100 since the fold button doesn't exist for them PF or postflop for at least 5
to 6 regs that I know still plays in the player pool.

If main villain UTG who C/R turn is the new LAGTAG reg or my good friend (should be former since OP has enough history with latter), both have Fancy Play Sybdrom factor which would lean me towards bet calling turn.

For my friend, he chooses his spots well and his historical win rate is quite solid but still has wider range then a typical TAG and more of a balanced LAGTAG c/r range with goal of exploiting Loose Passive villain and/or forcing OP to fold.

From what I hear, the new LAGTAG is alright but definitely has fancy play syndrome factors of over playing hands.