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04-07-2018 , 10:01 AM
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mongidig
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Lets say that you are in the BB. It's a live 9 handed 20/40 game. A good TAG opens UTG...77+ AJo+ ATs+ JTs+ QTs+ KTs+......Loose passive CO calls, you call.

JhJcTh

You check, UTG bets, CO folds, you call

JhJcTh9h...you check......What is your range here?
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04-07-2018 , 11:15 AM
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Bob148
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straight flush to the King/everything else imaginable in between/Kh8x.

Kh8x isn't the bottom of my flop calling range though; 87s, Q8o, and Q9o all improved, leaving Kh8x as the bottom of my turn range.

Note that I don't 3 bet preflop ever here; also that I never raise this flop.

Vs wider ranges I have preflop 3 betting ranges and flop check raise ranges, but not vs utg 9 handed and a single coldcaller.
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04-09-2018 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob148
straight flush to the King/everything else imaginable in between/Kh8x.

Kh8x isn't the bottom of my flop calling range though; 87s, Q8o, and Q9o all improved, leaving Kh8x as the bottom of my turn range.

Note that I don't 3 bet preflop ever here; also that I never raise this flop.

Vs wider ranges I have preflop 3 betting ranges and flop check raise ranges, but not vs utg 9 handed and a single coldcaller.
I think Q8o and K8o should be folded pre.

Not sure how I feel about not having a flop CR here. I get your reason why though. I'd be curious what others think.
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04-13-2018 , 05:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mongidig
Lets say that you are in the BB. It's a live 9 handed 20/40 game. A good TAG opens UTG...77+ AJo+ ATs+ JTs+ QTs+ KTs+......Loose passive CO calls, you call.

JhJcTh

You check, UTG bets, CO folds, you call

JhJcTh9h...you check......What is your range here?
That range I wiyod would consider as BAD TAG preflop raise range UTG 9 handed.

Turn range as HERO for mecwould be pocket pairs 99 or below, Q8, K8, AX , KX, QX,
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04-13-2018 , 11:39 AM
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That range I wiyod would consider as BAD TAG preflop raise range UTG 9 handed.

Turn range as HERO for mecwould be pocket pairs 99 or below, Q8, K8, AX , KX, QX,
How does that range make the TAG bad?
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04-14-2018 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
How does that range make the TAG bad?
Me personally, a good TAG should have a tighter open raise range UTG.

Might be acceptable for an expert LAG or LAGTAG to open that wide UTG but based on how unimpaginitive a TAG plays postflop, I would consider that open range to be bad based on my biased opinion
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