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Turn and river decisions. Turn and river decisions.

06-22-2019 , 01:52 PM
UTG....Probably a tight reasonable opening range. I don't know if he has a cap range pre in this situation. I don't know his donking range.

MP...Is a bit on the laggy side.

UTG opens, MP 3 bets, I am next to act in the SB with AsKc..I notice the BB telegraphing a fold so I choose to just call. UTG calls.

2s8h3d.. I check, UTG donks, MP calls, I call.

2s8h3d2c...I check, UTG bets, MP folds, I call?

2s8h3d2cKh...Do you donk or CR?

Do you call the turn?
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06-22-2019 , 02:01 PM
Call turn. Donk river.
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06-22-2019 , 03:00 PM
I like a cap pre. Def call turn and I usually C/R these rivers. Of course donking is fine too, it can be pretty read dependent. In general I don't have any donk bluffs in my current arsenal here so I always feel a bit awkward donking for value.
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06-22-2019 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JLot
I like a cap pre. Def call turn and I usually C/R these rivers. Of course donking is fine too, it can be pretty read dependent. In general I don't have any donk bluffs in my current arsenal here so I always feel a bit awkward donking for value.
+1
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06-22-2019 , 05:40 PM
Pot is big and the strange line makes me think I'm ahead of utg sometimes + draw out sometimes so I call turn.

He may be doing the "I has a weak made hand in a big pot and want the guy on my left to raise to push out the third player so I donk" manuever that sshe preaches and I believe never actually works. E.g., 66, 77, 99-TT might do this.

I donk river. If he has 88 I don't want to be 3 bet because I'll pay off and if he has a weak made hand he may check behind this scare card.
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06-22-2019 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
Pot is big and the strange line makes me think I'm ahead of utg sometimes + draw out sometimes so I call turn.

He may be doing the "I has a weak made hand in a big pot and want the guy on my left to raise to push out the third player so I donk" manuever that sshe preaches and I believe never actually works. E.g., 66, 77, 99-TT might do this.

I donk river. If he has 88 I don't want to be 3 bet because I'll pay off and if he has a weak made hand he may check behind this scare card.
Good points.

I think the donk with the weak made hand thing is more about seeing where they are and assuming the agro 3 better missed this board.

He could have AA's or KK's as well if he is a flatter type.

I think you almost always at least get in a bet when you donk as they shake their head and call. I think that is better than 0 or 3 bets going in. If this was a more draw heavy board I like the CR more since you may be able to induce a bluff. Also, since this is such a dry board they are more likely to put you on AK especially since we didn't raise the flop or turn.
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06-22-2019 , 06:48 PM
Cap pre. Check call river.
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06-22-2019 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon
Cap pre. Check call river.
You lose to exactly 88 and AA and he shouldn’t have those.
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06-22-2019 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon
Cap pre. Check call river.
Why x/c river?
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07-28-2019 , 04:32 AM
Bet you are way ahead of utg when spiking the king. AA or set you are getting 3bet. Most opponents are checking back river. (Pocket pair ace high)
When MP folds turn call, you are ahead of utg range a lot of the time
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07-30-2019 , 07:55 PM
as played, fold flop, donk river.
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07-31-2019 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
as played, fold flop, donk river.
10 small bets went in preflop including the big blind. That means we are getting 11 to 1 on a flop call. You should definitely be calling wider than AK here. Folding is really bad, especially on a safe texture where the preflop opener is going to bet quite liberally.
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07-31-2019 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
as played, fold flop, donk river.
fold preflop?
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08-05-2019 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BK1248
fold preflop?
huh
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08-13-2019 , 01:36 PM
villain should have a capping range in a multi-way pot. Need more history to advocate for a cr. Stakes would be helpful as well. I do think there risk of a check through or 3bet is high enough to make me lean towards betting. Everything else is incredibly standard with the exception of pf.
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09-23-2019 , 07:11 AM
I don't mind flatting pre if you picked up the BB was folding. OOP vs two opponents. I don't mind not defining my hand yet. Plus might cause them to overvalue AQ or KQ on an A-high or K-high board respectively.

As played, UTG's hand screams 99-QQ. Flopped an overpair. He's betting for value and/or hoping the laggy MP will iso raise with worse to get you out (I actually do this a lot donk leading into an laggro PF 3! with multiple people in the pot. Straight with a 2 flush out there. Set. 2 Pair. TP. Even MP sometimes if I think it's good vs him). Fine to peel the turn.

I'd lead river because most of his range will check back the king and I want at least one big bet on the river. If he has AA, KK or 88... So be it. NH, sir.
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