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12-07-2010 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey

Can you / someone summarize the 1 person rule / agreement that is going on now on Party?
No one allowed to sit out @ 250 table.. Pretty simple
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12-07-2010 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Parallax
Neo81: he is too good to play oop
lolololoololololol
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12-07-2010 , 11:31 PM
hey guys lighten up....he has lost enough this year that he is allowed to do that
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12-08-2010 , 12:28 AM
love me some st1ckman shenanigans ,and OTR I was dying laughing at the same thing you were. In fact it is the funniest thing I have read in a while
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12-08-2010 , 01:57 AM
Changing seats to get position on the fish, who was definitely Ted in this game, seems like good strategy to me. Ted was probably also aware of this and probably doesn't care, thus the statements like "he's too good to play oop" seem ok. What's the problem?
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12-08-2010 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DrElo
Changing seats to get position on the fish, who was definitely Ted in this game, seems like good strategy to me. Ted was probably also aware of this and probably doesn't care, thus the statements like "he's too good to play oop" seem ok. What's the problem?
Ted left because St1ck kept trying to get position on him so it's somewhat apparent that 1. he does care and 2. he was gone so no need for deception.
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12-08-2010 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
Ted left because St1ck kept trying to get position on him so it's somewhat apparent that 1. he does care and 2. he was gone so no need for deception.
Oh. So basically Ted admitted he was a fish, ok. Still, I would absolutely do the same thing, (especially at a 3k/6k, not like that's ever gonna run again except for huhu) and have no remorse about it.

What do you mean by deception?
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12-08-2010 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DrElo
Oh. So basically Ted admitted he was a fish, ok. Still, I would absolutely do the same thing, (especially at a 3k/6k, not like that's ever gonna run again except for huhu) and have no remorse about it.

What do you mean by deception?
Well from my limited experience with Ted Forest, he's absolutely not "too good to play oop". In fact I'd imagine he's one of the worst players that might play 3k/6k. So if St1ck were saying it to spare the fish's feelings, Ted was gone so it wouldn't be necessary. I might also not know Ted's real skill level, but if I'm correct, St1ck seems like he's being intentionally obtuse.
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12-08-2010 , 02:52 AM
Maybe true, I was able to play profbackwards as well (theprofess on Stars), briefly, a month ago or so, and was pretty sure he's bad. It is worth noting though that just because he's sat out and left the table it doesn't mean he's not reading the chat.

But ok, the main issue is ... the seat hopping? Sorry if I'm the one being obtuse here, I'm just confused because this seems so standard.
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12-08-2010 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
lolololoololololol
+1

he has to be geeking out behind his monitor when he comes up with a one-liner like this right?

can it be any more blatant?
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12-08-2010 , 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DrElo
Maybe true, I was able to play profbackwards as well (theprofess on Stars), briefly, a month ago or so, and was pretty sure he's bad. It is worth noting though that just because he's sat out and left the table it doesn't mean he's not reading the chat.

But ok, the main issue is ... the seat hopping? Sorry if I'm the one being obtuse here, I'm just confused because this seems so standard.
I have no problem with seat hopping unless the fish obviously is moving to avoid said seat hopping, at which point you should just make sure the game goes imo.
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12-08-2010 , 03:59 AM
Wow I read it as "too good of a spot." and was like lol... subtle
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12-08-2010 , 06:03 AM
After yesterday's session I wish you would punish him once more

hasu
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12-08-2010 , 06:48 AM
It's pretty rude to seat change to get better position in a game like that, especially doing it repeatedly. I mean its pretty much like every single other situation that is mentioned in this and other threads - your actions are super selfish and it forces everyone else to act in a super selfish manner to "keep up" and it ends up being a situation which is terrible for the game. If you take it to its conclusion nobody would ever post until they can try to lock up the superior seat on the fish and that obviously looks really bad. All these situations are basically arms races which will result in pros destroying the games with nukes to keep up with each other (and wow how did I just realize the neat cold war metaphor considering st1ck's country).
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12-08-2010 , 06:53 AM
Well, let me know when the massive skype meeting is and I'll agree to stop changing seats... as long as we can team up and button whichever regs don't comply.

Last edited by JDalla; 12-08-2010 at 06:54 AM. Reason: I agree with the sentiment but I don't see a solution unless its at a software/site level
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12-08-2010 , 07:32 AM
It seems to me profbackwards left the game with a profit. Guess he wasn't the only fish at the table?
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12-08-2010 , 08:26 AM
Yeah, I don't see any other possible explanation.

I didn't see much of yesterdays action only 1/2 hour or so, but I saw how the 3k/6k game broke and Ted sat at 2K/4k, where after the german guys sat, two more well known german NL regs (who have been accused of multiaccounting and angleshooting before fwiw) insta sat (and sat out)to block the table for St1ckman. I think this is highly inappropriate...
I also read, that kobeyard played hasu and I don't think there is any way that his backers would agree to this, so I don't think I'm out of line if I suspect, that they just played to get a game going - sending the won/lost money back. Please correct if I'm wrong.
I only play mid/high, but that would be ethically pretty wrong in my book.
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12-08-2010 , 08:32 AM
The NL players sitting out is really not cool imo
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12-08-2010 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AfriCola
Yeah, I don't see any other possible explanation.

I didn't see much of yesterdays action only 1/2 hour or so, but I saw how the 3k/6k game broke and Ted sat at 2K/4k, where after the german guys sat, two more well known german NL regs (who have been accused of multiaccounting and angleshooting before fwiw) insta sat (and sat out)to block the table for St1ckman. I think this is highly inappropriate...
if this really is true then someone needs to report these guys

cant believe ftp will let these guys pull off scummy stuff like this
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12-08-2010 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by leo doc
With all due respect, I think you're trying to improve game conditions for those high stakes regs that make up a limited circle of friends and have agreed on an implicit "code of conduct" as to who sits, etc.

I'll even acknowledge that it must get pretty frustrating having only a limited player pool and few fish to fund it. And perhaps those of you participating in this "endeavor" see it as a solution to your quandry. And maybe none of your current fish will ever read this thread, or if they do, they won't care.

But to the extent that these forums are read by aspiring, lower limit players that might someday want to play in your games, I think they've been forewarned.

And I agree wholeheartedly with mouse: this really does look "sketchy", despite the protestations of fair-play and no collusion.
Basically this. From someone who plays at party and betfair at the 25/50 30/60 level i have taken shots at 50/100 in the past but have recently been put off by this very thread. I don't think there is anything untoward going on but the thought of a pool of players on skype together basically freaks me out.
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12-08-2010 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HOWMANY

sites should just kick you off the table if you dont post a blind within 2 rounds of sitting down (or some amount of time if 2+ ppl are at table but nobody is sitting in) and should not be allowed to rejoin until after a certain amount of minutes. and there should be like a cap of like 3-5 tables of each limit that can be open.
This is almost the solution. If someone is sitting in, and the other 5 seats are all sitting out, all of them should be booted within 5 minutes that the sitting in person shows up, even if no hands are being played. This would stop the standstill of everyone jacking off at full tables with no hands being played.

If 3 people are sitting out and 3 empty seats = no problem.

If 3 people are sitting out and 1 sitting in and 2 empty seats = no problem.

If 5 people are sitting out and 1 sitting in w/ no empty seats = start kicking them out.

Make is so there is always seats available if anyone wants to play.

And if all 6 people are sitting out, boot all of them within 5 minutes.

This will a) make highlandering more likely
and b) prevent everyone from sitting out the second the fish sits out.

The fish will realize he got booted because everyone else sat out, and will quickly realize why.
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12-08-2010 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by THEFLY____21
Basically this. From someone who plays at party and betfair at the 25/50 30/60 level i have taken shots at 50/100 in the past but have recently been put off by this very thread. I don't think there is anything untoward going on but the thought of a pool of players on skype together basically freaks me out.
Ya put me in this boat also. I have taken shots at 250/500 in the past on party and I think it's pretty safe to say that I'm probably never going to play that game ever again.
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12-08-2010 , 04:46 PM
One thing I remember the germans doing was taking turns on playing someone headsup. I remember seeing this at least on FTP when they were playing against Malestra Pam. One german would play him in 6max game, the moment he sat out the other german sat it then he sat out and the other sat it. I don't know if this is considered to be unethical or not, I guess it depends on if the goal was to simply keep the game running so that Malestra continues playing or if the goal was to get him off his game by taking the turns. Actually even the first one might be little shady.

I guess thats the most likely "risk" in skype communication.

Last edited by AnoDonk; 12-08-2010 at 04:52 PM.
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12-08-2010 , 04:48 PM
This thread went from fun to srs biz and now im sad
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12-08-2010 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
This will a) make highlandering more likely
1. is the phrase "highlandering" one that ppl have used b4 in this situation?
2. if not can it plz become the standard phrase for this situation?

ty that pope many rays of sunshine have come down to brighten my day after reading that
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