20/40 kill is on and button posts 30. 8 handed

Some folds, spot limps. Spot is super agro post with anything reasonable post flop. Preflop he limps some and raises some. He does not fold. Next player in raises. He is newish. I assume he plays ok. I eat it directly to the face with black 7s in the highjack.

I’m making the following assumptions. 1) CO will fold (his hand is basically in the muck already; 2) kill/button will call all the bets with all the hands.

So kill calls, blinds fold, spot calls and we go 4 to the flop with 9sb in the pot.

Flop comes Q56cch and spot checks, opener raises bets, I call, killer folds, spot calls.

Turn is Qx.

Spot checks, raiser bets, I raise. . .

Some thoughts: 1) I should have raised the flop? ; 2.). You can assume it is impossible for the spot to have a queen here.

3 bet pre flop.

As played, don’t raise the turn.

I 3bet preflop because I'm well ahead of 100% and a potentially looser open range. Plus, kill posters rarely fold to one more bet but for two more I might get the poster, sb, and bb all to leave their dead money.

As preflop was played I raise the flop. I want to make draws and weak c-bets pay more to see a turn. Pot is big, I want it and I'd prefer heads up to multiway. If I ran into a fast played hand I'll know.

As played through to turn, I don't see how a worse hands can call a raise here. I'm worried that if he's still betting the turn he is ahead of me but I will call because pot is big and he could be betting draws that are out there.

With preflop, the spot who limped is never folding pre and neither is the button for 2 or 3 bets.

So my thought was that I'd rather have this hand go off 4-6 ways for 2 bets rather than 4 way for 3 bets. I'd certainly three bet 9s.

On the turn, I was trying to get the original raiser to fold a better hand (not a queen obv.)

You prefer this multiway? I'd prefer to pad the pot and disguise my hand to take it down on an ugly board that hits my 3b range hard.

Questions:

If spot folds and you are in pf-raiser position do you fold 88-JJ KK-AA? I think you b/c this board with those pretty often.

Is your CC range here is very very narrow? Basically mid pocket pair, maybe mid suited aces? When TAGs rarely CC me live and I see it happen suddenly the range is a pretty narrow band around exactly what you have. You are repping a Q and I'd put you on almost never having a Queen when you cc here so if spot folds I'm calling you with all made hands better than 6.

What makes you say poster calls 2 with 100%? You have a read? Ultimate position multiway still doesn't make 5.5ish-1 profitable for 100% range does it (3 from you, 3 from spot, 3 from pfr, 1 posted, blinds - 2)?

I know they will call because I’ve played with them for hours. With 4 players I’m going to need to show the best hand on the river most of the time.

I'd 3-bet pre here. If I somehow got into the pot with just a call, I would raise this flop also.

And the other two questions?

It’s hard to answer what I’d do with his range against me.

On the cold call range, eh, I’d been drinking so I would have folded 44 preflop and call KJs