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08-09-2016 , 02:11 PM
20/40 9 handed

UTG...Laggy, chases, will 3 barrel missed draws and big UIP over cards. I'm not sure if he is bluffing or value betting the UIP overs. Probably bluffing, but he has extracted value a few times. He can also be mubsy and miss value on the river. He could be LRR hands like 76s or premium hands. I would weight it toward the premiums.

UTG limps, Folded to me in the SB and I raise AhJh, BB folds, UTG raises, and I call.

As6cQs...I check, UTG bets, I call

As6cQs9h..I check, UTG bets, I call

As6cQs9h4d...I kinda want to Donk here. Would you have put in more action prior to the river?

What if you had never seen this player LRR...how would you proceed?
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08-09-2016 , 02:23 PM
Do you b/f or b/c the river if you donk?
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08-09-2016 , 02:30 PM
k/c three times.
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08-09-2016 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by leo doc
Do you b/f or b/c the river if you donk?
I would have to b/c expecting to lose the majority of the time. I've seen him twice raise the river and show nothing and then he sais he thought he had a flush or straight. He won't raise the river without a very strong holding, like two pair or a set.
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08-09-2016 , 02:35 PM
If he likes 3-barreling so much, why stand in his way.
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08-09-2016 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KL03
k/c three times.
This.

Limp re-raisers are, in general, doing you a huge favor (as long as some idiot who is also in the hand doesn't start raising after flopping a pair or something).
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08-09-2016 , 09:10 PM
I would also c/c three times.
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08-10-2016 , 02:47 AM
Yes, x/c thrice.
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08-10-2016 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Donk Quixote
If he likes 3-barreling so much, why stand in his way.


Why donk the river?

I'm c/c the whole way and not feeling great or bad.
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08-10-2016 , 12:58 PM
We lose to 12 combos: 8 AK, 1 AA, 3 QQ.

We beat at least KK and JJ = 9 combos.
Possibly throw in TT, ATs, Axs
Throw in some SCs.
Sounds like he's a barreling nut

Gotta throw in some aggression somewhere.
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08-11-2016 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by phunkphish
We lose to 12 combos: 8 AK, 1 AA, 3 QQ.

We beat at least KK and JJ = 9 combos.
Possibly throw in TT, ATs, Axs
Throw in some SCs.
Sounds like he's a barreling nut

Gotta throw in some aggression somewhere.
My experience is typical LRR'ers have far narrower ranges than this (although there are obvious exceptions).
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08-11-2016 , 08:40 PM
He either has a set, AK, pocket deuces, or ten high. I would check call.
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08-12-2016 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by lawdude
My experience is typical LRR'ers have far narrower ranges than this (although there are obvious exceptions).
OP specifically said this LRRer has suited connectors.
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08-12-2016 , 10:26 AM
i would lean towards checkraising flop against this specific kind of player if they like showing down rivers cheap in a checkcall twice scenario. yeah its imbalanced but i imagine you see this situation very rarely.
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08-12-2016 , 08:16 PM
Would he bet river with KK, JJ, or TT if you check? If so I think donking here is wrong. Are you b/fing? B/c seems like a disaster.

If he bets most or all of his range 3x I think the optimal line would be to x/c 3x and expect to lose to AQ, AK, or QQ quite often.
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08-14-2016 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KL03
k/c three times.
yup. end thread riiiiiiiiiiiiiight about heeya.

really nothing else you can do. you freaking HATE getting raised and having to call the river (b/c it'll happen more than twice as often as him calling and when he doesn't have it he's folding quite a bit. i.e. the times he calls he has specifically KK pretty much b/c he knows you will simply never donk bluff there). if he's a normal lrr'er (there are some % of people who i can think of who lrr a balanced range b/c they love lrr aa/kk so much) then he has AA/KK/AKs/AKo/sometimes QQ there/+some small% of random somethings (the 76s thing you mentioned for example). you're hoping for the random somethings here or KK.

anyways, betting into that range on the river is no good b/c even when you get called (AK) you sometimes lose. otherwise he folds (76s types and random crappies), or he raises (AA/QQ). yes, sometimes he calls and you win (KK), but that's reallllly not justification for a bet imo.
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