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10-04-2008 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ship it pls
please give a couple responses to this if you would, i am not sure on the proper action...

last night a 2p2er and i were accused of cheating

we play agg against each other becaus we usually play 30 against each other, but since we were at a lower table its apparently absurd to play as agg as we do...

in a pot with many ppl between we pushed the action and ended up capping a ragged flop, and this is what followed:

accuser: how long have you two played together?

me: excuse me?

accuser: you know each other, you're playing at the same table,... (and he starts saying little things that may make him think that we're working together - i don't remember more details of what he said)

me: i do not appreciate being called a cheater

accuser: i bet you don't

me: ??????? - as a brief note, the player is a regular who i've played with some, and haven't ever had an issue, he is the quiet and kind of cold live player
Tell him that regulars in a game know each other and that you play the highest limit in the house and that only an idiot would accuse you of cheating at a lower game than you actually play on a regular basis.
10-04-2008 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by undertheinfluence
i hate live poker, hate holdem, dont find much use to post...some of the guys have mentioned they'd be down for a 30/60 omaha, but whatever, unfortunately it's a holdem paradise at bay...at least it's easier to lose less live, like this hand yesterday you were witness to:

im in seat 6 in the SB, old man who usually is complaining about losing tens of thousands on blackjack is instead chatting hank away at the table (for what reason? i thought it was just friendly conversation until he scooped a scoop of ice cream and seductively offered it to hank, LOL) so we'll kindly refer to him as BJ Masters for this hand limps UTG, hank mucks next, and then the parade of world class limpers come flying into the pot, naturally i raise AQ on the SB, BB calls, bj masters 3 bets now, the rest call, i call. onto the flop of Q43 i C/R, bj 3 bets, i reluctantly call. Turn is A Top two pair, obv C/F since he has AA or KK, but i check call instead because i am unable to make sensible laydowns. River comes the J he fires, dude next to me in seat 7 starts screaming, "let me see both hands!", my biggest pet peeve, whatever, i can run him over in the parking lot later...i know im beat, but i call anyways like a ******. bj flips over his hand and takes a deuce off me on the hand; very next hand, i river aces up after i miss my nut flush draw only to get C/R on the river by seat 7 who had just been calling all the way up to that point on a very drawy cooridnated board of 984 6 on turn, who happens to have played his 888 slowly b/c he wanted to see if the draws got there first! of course! online, i put in a ton more big bets, live, i just casually c/c my coolers and give chips to people like bj masters and table captains who feel the need to see hands they are not even involved in. jeez, id rather play at the corner heroin den with all the other junkies, at least i can follow their level of thinking...that'd a good idea, bye.
With posts like this, you'll fit in here beautifully!
10-04-2008 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ProfessorBen
a week ago i was at bay. i get carded for probably the fourth time that day by a dealer, which is no problem. doesnt matter that im a reg and ive played in the highest games there before and the floors know me by name but again, all within reason.

the dealer looks at me and says "damn i cant read this", proceeds to take off his glasses and say, "yeah i cant read this close" i find this kind of funny and only realize how ******ed it is in retrospect that you would ask to see someone id knowing that you have close-distance vision problems. again, all not a big deal.

he then gives my driver's license to the guy in seat 1 who holds it in his hands and looks at it for 20-30 seconds before he says that "yeah this ones way past 21" and hands the DL to the guy next to him in seat 2 and says "you wanna see too?" before handing it back to the dealer. thoughts? my play?
just suck it up. the dealer's just trying to do his job, and while it was pretty unprofessional to get another player's help in reading your ID, I don't see anything gained in calling him out on such.

I've also found that no amount of talking can convince a person over 30 that it is anything other than a complement to get carded, and saying anything just gets numerous comments by numerous people along the lines of, "I wish I could get carded too," and "someday you'll wish you had this problem, enjoy it while it lasts," and whatever other ******ed thing anybody can come up with. That's obviously not the issue here, but that's how it would be perceived by the other players and then you have to listen to their sh** too.
10-04-2008 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by vanman
just suck it up. the dealer's just trying to do his job, and while it was pretty unprofessional to get another player's help in reading your ID, I don't see anything gained in calling him out on such.

I've also found that no amount of talking can convince a person over 30 that it is anything other than a complement to get carded, and saying anything just gets numerous comments by numerous people along the lines of, "I wish I could get carded too," and "someday you'll wish you had this problem, enjoy it while it lasts," and whatever other ******ed thing anybody can come up with. That's obviously not the issue here, but that's how it would be perceived by the other players and then you have to listen to their sh** too.
I am 25 and wish I still had that problem
10-05-2008 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bakku
we had a mandatory straddle going tonight at the garden city 20 game that lasted for 2.5 hours. one guy was playing 85% of his hands and had to rebuy 5 times in that 2.5 hours. after the straddles ended he rebought 2 more times before finally going busto
Sorry to hear CDC ran bad again.
10-05-2008 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by vanman
just suck it up. the dealer's just trying to do his job, and while it was pretty unprofessional to get another player's help in reading your ID, I don't see anything gained in calling him out on such.

I've also found that no amount of talking can convince a person over 30 that it is anything other than a complement to get carded, and saying anything just gets numerous comments by numerous people along the lines of, "I wish I could get carded too," and "someday you'll wish you had this problem, enjoy it while it lasts," and whatever other ******ed thing anybody can come up with. That's obviously not the issue here, but that's how it would be perceived by the other players and then you have to listen to their sh** too.
i should say it alot more tersely than this... but ur missing the point.
10-05-2008 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by private joker
Sorry to hear CDC ran bad again.
when has CDC ever played only 85% of hands in a straddle game?
10-05-2008 , 03:13 AM
Finally managed to book a decent win 'for my head', DESPITE being dealt Kings 3 times. God, what a horrible time the past few weeks have been.......
10-05-2008 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
I am 25 and wish I still had that problem
My sister got carded last Thanksgiving at the Hyatt Gainey Ranch in Scottsdale. Total con, but it worked. She tipped the bartender $20.
10-05-2008 , 06:26 AM
warning: if you read everything i wrote below youre a moron bc its a bunch of ******ed rambling

ship it pls: if someone in a small stakes game accuses you of cheating ask them if theyre ****ing insane when you obv play the biggest game alone all the time and then challange to hu4rolls

profben: ive been carded a few times for random **** that i have to be 18 for ie buying cold medicine this week (rusrs wtf do i need to be 18 for cold medicine?), buying cigs for gf 1 time and then at an 18 and under indian casino. my response every time is the same: "are you serious?". then again iirc its possible for someone to mistake you for being <21 whereas someone thinking im even potentially younger than 18 is nothing short of comedy but if the dealer took that long and made a scene id be like "can you call the ****ing floor over if u need to check my id this is ****ing absurd to slow the game down like this you ****ing ******"

ok anyway time to bitch, go to commerce friday afternoon i guess, sit in a nice 3/6 mix and proceed to get stuck a bit and then get even then get frustrated that the player i sat in the game to play with just keeps randomly walking so i just go play 1/2 holdem and im stuck 2500 no biggie. so then in 1/2 holdem i flop a set like my 2nd orbit with 55 after sb cc pf and we go to flop hu. flop K52 two spades and sb wins with 65o running spades 6 high flush>5 high flush. then i get QQ vs Q9 on T98 flop and the turns a 9. then i get 3b by mike l when i have 77 and he has TT and the flop is Q97 and i dont procure the dollars so in like 3 orbits or something idiotic i lose like 5k thats realistic. so we go to dinner and have a homegame and of course i run one of those gay ass red lights with a camera on la brea with priv joker mike l and snowball in the car that was wonderful.

next morning i go downstairs and i see theres a 1/2 mix with all my favorite barnyard creatures playing and mike has already locked me a seat. i go ahead and get 8-10k winner or so and we change the game from BT to BRTR. i then proceed to be like a 2:1 favorite in 3 enormous razz pots that are all 3+ ways on every street and go ahead and never hit any of the times that i just need to hit like a 16 outter to make them be drawing dead almost and find myself down to 1k winner. then i get back to 4k winner and correctly 7 bet bluff in T after the first draw and go ahead and get 4 outted anyway. and then i make a 7 perfect in razz vs an 85. but then the 85 makes a 65 instead and i fail to make a wheel or a 6 and then im stuck 400 dollars after being winning more than eight thousand and then im ready to kill myself bc any time im winning 40 bets in a game the only result i can imagine in my head is winning 100 bets at least. so instead of slightly winning on the trip to subsidize overpriced food, traffic light ticket, gas and hotel i lost in the most absurd ways possible. like who just plays 5 hands in a holdem game, flops a set with 2/3 pp and loses both then gets 2 outted with the other one, then makes a straight iwth 98ss vs AKo on a QJ44T and two spades on the turn board and then another was just a random failed bluff that was the least of my worries. and then today i lost 2 times with a 7 in T, had some baboon not understand the strength of his own hand in Badugi so i lost like $400+ in value by him not putting in more action with what was supposed to be a ******o cooler situation for him. oh also i made a #2 in T in the 3/6 game and lost, that one was a real ****ing peach. i love that i just suffer the most heinous coolers only in white chip games like ive never lost with a 6 badugi playing 1/2 and lower mix and ive played like 10x as many hours 1/2 and lower mix as i have white chip and ive lost like 8-10 times with a 6 badugi in white chip plus absolutely plentiful 7s that ive lost with including a few #2s in triple draw. its just like sigh plz one time can i just like be 25 bets winner. like is it really impossible to win 10k in a 2/4 or 3/6 game? the result is always that i either win or lose like 5k or i lose >25k. clearly im just outclassed as mike has seen by the terrific play in the games when he comes over to talk to me.
10-05-2008 , 02:23 PM
Has anyone ever noticed how HUGE James Woods head is? For a guy who is probably like 6'1-6'2 he has a head proportionate to someone who is like 8 feet tall.

To the tall guy with dirty reddish hair who plays 40: that Asian chick kinda wants you. But be warned, I am 100% positive she is a lunatic. She has the eyes of the crazy...
10-05-2008 , 04:22 PM
OK let's discuss what the best opening line would be to say to James Woods.

So far Shant's line is best: "I loved you in John Q"
10-05-2008 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerJans
Has anyone ever noticed how HUGE James Woods head is? For a guy who is probably like 6'1-6'2 he has a head proportionate to someone who is like 8 feet tall.
Yes his head is absolutely enormous. A lot of actors have gigantic noggins. If you ever see James Van der Beek in person, you'll freak out at the proportions of his massive cranium.

Woods is also getting unbelievably fat around the midsection.
10-06-2008 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TedBundyWasRight
OK let's discuss what the best opening line would be to say to James Woods.

So far Shant's line is best: "I loved you in John Q"
Shant must tell strippers he think they're hot too.
10-06-2008 , 01:54 AM
Another stellar session. High points include:

--I raise AA UTG. UTG+1 3-bets. MP calls 3 cold. I cap. They call.
Flop A33 and I'm drawing dead

--Horrible SB bets 22 into 877 flop. I raise A7 and he calls. Turn 9; he check/calls. River 2

--Allegedly decent player loves to bluff at any paired flop. He dutifully does so with A7o on a 922 flop and calls my raise and a LP cold-call because he put us both on K-high, I guess. Runner runner A-high flush is better than my TP and K-high flush.

--more runner-runner losses than I can count

--I cap KK vs AK and flop top set with one spade. I'm only a 24:1 favorite but I keep betting anyway.

--To end the session I lost 4.5 racks without once having the best hand on the river
10-06-2008 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by private joker

Woods is also getting unbelievably fat around the midsection.
All of Connecticut is.

Tie in Plug WPT in town. The 600$ LHE Event is October 29th 10am at Foxwoods. 530/70. 50 min levels, stacks were deep for a long time. A group of 2p2ers played it together in March and we found that about half of the 120 person field was the daily tournament crowd : my favorite being the woman at my table who said "It would be simpler if we just made it no limit"

So many of them play LHE about twice a year which is +EV for everyone else. We did a 5% swap last year (netting 0$) and are thinking about it again. If anyone is interested, PM me.
10-06-2008 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DeuceKicker
Another stellar session. High points include:

--I raise AA UTG. UTG+1 3-bets. MP calls 3 cold. I cap. They call.
Flop A33 and I'm drawing dead

--Horrible SB bets 22 into 877 flop. I raise A7 and he calls. Turn 9; he check/calls. River 2

--Allegedly decent player loves to bluff at any paired flop. He dutifully does so with A7o on a 922 flop and calls my raise and a LP cold-call because he put us both on K-high, I guess. Runner runner A-high flush is better than my TP and K-high flush.

--more runner-runner losses than I can count

--I cap KK vs AK and flop top set with one spade. I'm only a 24:1 favorite but I keep betting anyway.

--To end the session I lost 4.5 racks without once having the best hand on the river
Ugh. Poker players should have an outlet for days like this. Must do wonders for the mind/body. Sounds like a terribad day.
10-06-2008 , 06:07 AM
Commerce 40.

MP opens, a fairly LAGgy but not ******ed CO 3-bets, and I cap QQ on the button. The SB, a very good, solid, TAGgy, straight-forward young girl who's dating a high-stakes LHE regular, does a double take when she looks at her cards and calls my cap. Oops.

Flop comes J63r. She donks, MP folds, CO calls, I call.
Turn 5. She bets, CO calls, I think for a moment and count the pot and think again and look at her and eventually fold.

I'm not really sure if this is a good fold ever, and I don't know that I would do it routinely, or even once ever again, but at the time I was sure I was beat. I dunno... maybe I am too much of a nit.

Anyway, the river is an 8 and she bets and the CO thinks for a while and hems and haws and I'm upset because if he mucks I'll never see her hand unless I beg her to show. But then all is well because CO finally calls her and she rolls AA and I breathe a huge sigh of relief and quietly applaud myself.

Over the next 60 minutes I proceeded to win $1,700.
10-06-2008 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
I am 25 and wish I still had that problem
I got carded at Bay 101 twice in the past two weeks, which I found entertaining since I worked there from late 2001 till late 2005.

And yes, it did make me feel young.
10-06-2008 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ProfessorBen
a week ago i was at bay. i get carded for probably the fourth time that day by a dealer, which is no problem. doesnt matter that im a reg and ive played in the highest games there before and the floors know me by name but again, all within reason.

the dealer looks at me and says "damn i cant read this", proceeds to take off his glasses and say, "yeah i cant read this close" i find this kind of funny and only realize how ******ed it is in retrospect that you would ask to see someone id knowing that you have close-distance vision problems. again, all not a big deal.

he then gives my driver's license to the guy in seat 1 who holds it in his hands and looks at it for 20-30 seconds before he says that "yeah this ones way past 21" and hands the DL to the guy next to him in seat 2 and says "you wanna see too?" before handing it back to the dealer. thoughts? my play?
you got two options here:

a) stab him when his down is over
b) act friendly and later offer him a sip out of an electric bottle

you said the floor knows you, they'll probably just let you off with a warning if you go with a. b will be more fun as long as nobody figures it out; nothing like dosing somebody without them knowing it (i would actually enjoy my time on the rail waiting for a seat if i could see certain dealers there tripping out of their minds).
10-06-2008 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DeuceKicker
Another stellar session. High points include:

--I raise AA UTG. UTG+1 3-bets. MP calls 3 cold. I cap. They call.
Flop A33 and I'm drawing dead

--Horrible SB bets 22 into 877 flop. I raise A7 and he calls. Turn 9; he check/calls. River 2

--Allegedly decent player loves to bluff at any paired flop. He dutifully does so with A7o on a 922 flop and calls my raise and a LP cold-call because he put us both on K-high, I guess. Runner runner A-high flush is better than my TP and K-high flush.

--more runner-runner losses than I can count

--I cap KK vs AK and flop top set with one spade. I'm only a 24:1 favorite but I keep betting anyway.

--To end the session I lost 4.5 racks without once having the best hand on the river
stating the obvious, i hate days like this but
regret only wastes the human spirit; $hit happens, don't dwell on it...
and chance doesn't choose the past (hard to believe as we get cooler after cooler in certain sessions but it's the truth)
10-06-2008 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MRDCHAN
Ugh. Poker players should have an outlet for days like this. Must do wonders for the mind/body. Sounds like a terribad day.
I have the solution.

I lost 2000 playing 60-120. So I say **** it and go play 4-8 at commerce.

I post in the CO and announce "I raise blind" and put 8 chips. Button 3 bets, I cap. All players call (at least 7)

Flop is 9 7 3

checked to me, I bet, all call. I say "nobody raises? i haven't looked at my cards"

Turn 5

checked to me, I bet, Everyone knows that I still haven't looked at my cards, all call.

River J check to my right who bets and says "you let me get there"

I finally open to see 74 and muck, old asian lady calls and the guy shows J3.

She starts complaining like mad and shows KK

I proceed to die laughing for like the next 2 minutes while telling her that if she raised at any moment she would have won. Actually the whole table laughed.

The other funny hand:

all call and i raise button blind, all call

JT3 with 2 spades

SB bets, all call. I look and see JT! Raise! all call (The amount of times everyone called was hilarious)

6

checked, I bet, 4 call. I yell "Deuce!" and the dealer puts the worst card in the world.

9 spade

SB bets all in, all fold, I call and show my hand saying "I think you win"

He goes: straight flush and shows Q8s

I tip the dealer 8 chips.
10-06-2008 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TedBundyWasRight
OK let's discuss what the best opening line would be to say to James Woods.

So far Shant's line is best: "I loved you in John Q"
Based on every time I've seen him and who he has with him, which is about 6 times, my line would be: "Excuse me, but could I have your daughter's phone number?".

Having said that, I think he's great. Even liked his TV show.

PJ: Read your last Sept. post and I felt the same way in August. So I didn't play in September - at all. Now, I do not rely on poker solely for income, but it's amazing how a long break can clear the head. Go back to Palm Springs. Good luck in October, I'm looking forward to getting back on track myself.
10-06-2008 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jesse8888
On pace to win 60K this month. Sustainable?
Sustainable if you went to work and made $60K. Not sustainable playing mid limit holdem...
10-06-2008 , 01:50 PM
My random Bay 101 carding story from last week (I get carded there about once a month. I think the guy at the door has a quota to fill, cause after he does it he always radios in "ID check performed" to somebody on his little walkie talkie).

Dude: "Sir" (and motions over with his hands. this man does not really speak English).
Me: "Oh, sure" (I know exactly what he wants)
Dude: (after 10 seconds of searching my in state completely standard California license) "87?"
Me: "No, 82. I was born in 1982"
Dude: "87..." (pointing at the DOB which says 1982) "What month?"
Me: ( [x] still 21 if birthday moved back 5 years ) "April"
Dude: "OK" (to walkie talkie now) "ID check performed"
Me: "..."

      
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