Depends on who you poll obviously.

Here is a write-up of a river 3-bet bluff with 7-high by Hoss_TBF.

great read, thx for that link

I think I remember the hand CDC's talking about. Commerce 60. But also if I recall correctly, the T-high bet/caller on the river wasn't so sure he would win the hand; they were both steaming and T-high guy was just tilt-calling the river raise but was not altogether surprised that the villain had 7-high.

there was a 60 hand a couple years ago where some1 called down with 5 hi in the commerce 60. the good news is his opponent missed his draw. the bad news was that he still had j hi. the 5 hi guy was still ecstatic to have caught him bluffing despite not having won the pot.

That wasn't a bluff; it was a really, really thin value-bet that got paid off.

this reminds me the classic NL "I know you have total air, so I'm gonna re-raise you with my AA and make you fold" line that you see so often at small stakes live.

Yeah, the ol "I thought he was bluffing, so I re-raised."

There was a supremely donktastic hand aired on the WPT last week. UTG raises with KJo, gets called by the BB who covers. Flop AAK two spades. BB c/c. Turn A. BB c/r, and the UTG player makes what might be the single worst 3-bet in the history of televised poker.

He shuts out all the BB's bluffing hands and only gets another chip in the pot if the other guy has the case A or a chopping K.

Standard, my bluffing ratio here is about 98%, is that game theory optimal?

Hope this poor Hoss fellow doesn't go broke soon with his "game theory" rationalizations.

For sure he's no Bart Hanson, who makes one of the all-time great, great laydowns ever, ever at the LAPC

Sometimes I think I can make a great, great, great, laydown like this, then I remember they were playing UNLIMITED HOLDEM, and that I would actually snap-push just to end the mind-numbing boredom.

His preflop call with 74o is spewtastic enough to defy rationalization of any kind, IMHO.

some ppl like to slowplay their monsters. im sure he balances the flat call w a 3bet sometimes.

Plus according to PTR he's a big tilter who barely plays any hands and hardly earns any rakeback.

His consistency score is extremely low, so I think he's still learning the game and doesn't even know the best standard lines. He also got only a B+ from the Grader for Showdown Frequency, where I got nothing less than As and A+s. Finally, he's in a bit of a plateau after just running hot in the first place, so he's probably getting even more tilty.

I'm adding this guy to my buddy list to see if I can get him before he runs out of cash, will report results soon

Speaking of running out of money, how was Vegas?

Phil Hellmuth claims that Hoss_TBF pays off like a slot machine. Hoss agrees.

Good to know I'm not being triple leveled or something. I read that "article" and basically salivated for a shot in his villain's shoes.

Lost $10 playing 30-60 for 3 hours. Must have got hit in the face by the deck. Only mistake was not showing more hands, like my 65o 3B, or my K2o straddle hand that I tried to CR a guy off 2nd nut flush with...

Otherwise, the Dinosaurs were very, very, large, and very, very, loud. My daughter kept asking if it was about to end, and when it finally did, she cried for 15 minutes and I almost (almost) bought tickets for the 2nd show for her. Shark Reef was very cool.

Wife & I had much fun after their bed time.

If the worlds greatest unlimited holdem player calls Hoss a fish, that pretty much cinches the case, let's pool our bankrolls and challenge him to a $1k/$2k freezeout.

lol? it's totally standard.

Maybe someone should try to exploit that.

Brownies involved?

btw, I get out there about 12:30 on Sat. Any of y'all seen boc around? I'm tenatively planning on dinner on Monday if WVU beats Duke in the semi. If Duke wins, I don't have a preference for the date as long as we do it when jesse's there. He gets in Monday about noonish and is staying until Thursday.

nah the hand I'm talking about was a 100/200 hand at Bay101 and there was no tilting or anything involved, just only that both guys were so sure the other guy couldn't possibly have anything. The thing is the guy with T high had to put the other guy on a total float on the turn with no pair no draw no overcard because the T high couldn't even beat the missed draw. I think the final board was like KQ4-K-5. Guy checkraised the turn and bet-snap called the river with T9, the other guy bet-called the turn and raised the river with 76

76 though the ocean would bring in his straight obv

I am busy Thursday night, so Mon-Wed works for me.

They have GOT to be 2p2'ers. Out them! Out them!

nope, not 2p2ers, just a couple of regs in my game that have a lot of history with each other. and yes, they are both self taught players that play like 99% live poker. believe it or not 2p2 isn't the only place where deeper level thinking goes on.

Just kiddin'. I know that a number of the old 100/200 regs are 2p2'ers.