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Old 03-19-2010, 06:33 PM   #526
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Just got to sexy three streets vs. my personal demon, the tough Internet player. he raised my bb, I call with jacks. Flop q high, turn j, river ace. He returns favor five hands later flopping set vs my overpair.

I'm now down 7 racks and he's my personal banker. Every hour I give him purple, he gives me back some of my brown.
[ ] You can sexy more than once in a hand.
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:47 PM   #527
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[ ] You can sexy more than once in a hand.
c/r flop, c/c turn, c/r river
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:54 PM   #528
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c/r flop, c/c turn, c/r river
A sexy can only be completed if the river is cr'd, so by definition you can only do it once.
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:55 PM   #529
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A sexy can only be completed if the river is cr'd, so by definition you can only do it once.
i thought it was just an out-of-flow c/r....
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:57 PM   #530
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c/r flop, c/c turn, c/r river
Not sexy.

Looks like the forum needs a refresher course:

Sexy: Being the aggressor (and just getting called) on street A followed by a c/r on street B. Street A is the turn, street B is the river.

Example: You defend your BB with 77. Flop Q74. You c/r. He calls. Turn 9. You bet, he calls. River A. You c/r.

Screwplay: Being the aggressor (and just getting called) on street A followed by a c/r on street B. Street A is the flop, street B is the turn.

Example: You raise UTG with AQs. Only CO calls. Flop A94r. You bet, he calls. Turn Q. You c/r.
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:00 PM   #531
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A sexy can only be completed if the river is cr'd, so by definition you can only do it once.
slightly nitty but correct. screw play is the accepted term for an 'out-of-rhythm' c/r on ANY street (i differ from PJ here apparently). but saying sexy isn't *that* incorrect, its like someone saying they're open ended when they're double-gutted, i think its fine but some people throw a fit when they hear it. same thing with set vs. trips which is harsh on the ears and definitely aggravates more people than the prior two examples but is ultimately kind of nitty to get worked up over.

i love telling the diction-loving table captains at small stakes NL games in touristy places like vegas "i have pocket ace king. did you make two pairs?" just to watch them roll their eyes in disdain.some others are calling a flopped pair a "match", triple of a kind, and "my trips filled up into a full boat" is a good one when the board pairs after flopping a set.

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Old 03-19-2010, 07:02 PM   #532
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sexy is the worst poker term ever invented
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:05 PM   #533
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Not sexy.

Looks like the forum needs a refresher course:

Sexy: Being the aggressor (and just getting called) on street A followed by a c/r on street B. Street A is the turn, street B is the river.

Example: You defend your BB with 77. Flop Q74. You c/r. He calls. Turn 9. You bet, he calls. River A. You c/r.

Screwplay: Being the aggressor (and just getting called) on street A followed by a c/r on street B. Street A is the flop, street B is the turn.

Example: You raise UTG with AQs. Only CO calls. Flop A94r. You bet, he calls. Turn Q. You c/r.
def never knew that.

@bakku: sexy is kind of annoying, but pales in comparison to "rolled up aces" imo
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:14 PM   #534
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Rush Poker gets kinda weird when there are very few people. I'm currently playing 2 tables against 5 one tablers so they are basically just running back and forth between my two tables and rearranging themselves.
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:33 PM   #535
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A cr is by definition out of rhythym. I consider any flop action where we are the aggressor followed by a turn cr a screwplay. I think pj's def of a sexy is correct though my fav version is where we have taken the inititive pf and getting a coldcall and villain takes the wa/wb line on a board where their hand is pretty much face up. Then we attempt check and raise on the river.
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:35 PM   #536
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I actually like the term sexy, because it is the ultimate pwnage. The only problem is that you pretty much never see it as a bluff so it's hard to get paid off by any competent player.
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:41 PM   #537
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A cr is by definition out of rhythym.
no its not. i defend my bb vs your button raise. i c/r. all actions in that sequence are in rhythm.
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no its not. i defend my bb vs your button raise. i c/r. all actions in that sequence are in rhythm.
I would think that any time you cr against a person that ha the initiative thy is out if rhythm.
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I actually like the term sexy, because it is the ultimate pwnage. The only problem is that you pretty much never see it as a bluff so it's hard to get paid off by any competent player.
I was just thinking about this yesterday. How to check/raise the river as a bluff. I think the best place to do it is against a thinking thin value bettor where you feel that if you bet they will call with a wide range but will also bet/fold a significant range.

So if you have like 87 and the flop is KQ6, turn K, river 2. If you bet they might call with any pair and maybe even AJ/AT type hands but if you check, they bet for value with a wide range and then you c/r to rep a K.
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If you think it's not then you kind of contradict yourself in your egs of two sexys in one hand.
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:49 PM   #541
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i would rather call it ultimate pwnage or something lame like the houdini than sexy. the word sexy just doesn't belong in poker jargon
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:49 PM   #542
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I would think that any time you cr against a person that ha the initiative thy is out if rhythm.
well, i dunno if there is a poker usage rule book, but that's not how i've heard it used. you'll sometimes hear that a certain player always plays "in rhythm" -- that doesn't mean they never c/r. it means they never donk into the last aggressor, or c/r when they were the last aggressor, and maybe something else too.
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well, i dunno if there is a poker usage rule book, but that's not how i've heard it used. you'll sometimes hear that a certain player always plays "in rhythm" -- that doesn't mean they never c/r. it means they never donk into the last aggressor, or c/r when they were the last aggressor, and maybe something else too.
Actually now that I think about it, in rhythm generally refers to one's timing on making an action.
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Actually now that I think about it, in rhythm generally refers to one's timing on making an action.
tempo is the word you're looking for I think.
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Actually now that I think about it, in rhythm generally refers to one's timing on making an action.
that is another use of it, yeah. a specific action being described as in rhythm would be what you are talking about, but i was talking about an entire playing style. i mean, i have no idea what's correct really, this is just how i've heard it used.....
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same thing with set vs. trips which is harsh on the ears and definitely aggravates more people than the prior two examples but is ultimately kind of nitty to get worked up over.
I don't think set vs trips is nitty at all. Huge difference, really. Do you think A3 on AA9 flop is the same thing as AA on an A93 flop? Answer becomes clear once you start getting heavy action on the AA9 flop from an old rock.
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contextually i thought it was clear i was referring to failing to bet when being the final aggressor on the previous street and instead check raising. similarly a donk is an "out-of-rhythm" bet. cbets and call call lines are in rhythm, as is checking to the previous aggressor with the intention of raising. screw-playing and donking are out of rhythm lines in this context...

i use rhythm to mean calling/betting at a normal speed too but i don't think of rhythm as a poker term.
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tempo is the word you're looking for I think.
Yeah, but they are def used synomously in this forum. I knew what usage GM was getting at though.
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I don't think set vs trips is nitty at all.
this makes me smile
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Old 03-19-2010, 08:31 PM   #550
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Will you nits stop ruining the single greatest hand of poker I've yet played? Sexy, triple sexy, double screwplay, DVDA, whatever you call it, it was awesome. Just don't piss on my face and tell me it's lite beer.
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