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01-27-2011 , 05:12 PM
loose passive game 20/40 limit @ Fox woods:

HAND 1

Folded to Villain(lag) on Button who bets
Hero BB Ad7d makes it three, Button calls


Flop: Kh6d5c, I bet. Villain Calls

Turn: 4d, I bet.Villain Calls

Whats my best line pre, post, and turn.


Hand#2
Villain(lag) UG opens,Hero UG+1: AsKs makes it three,folded back to Villain who caps.

FLop: 10s8s4c Villain bets, hero calls.

Turn:3s, Villain bets, hero calls.

River: qh
villain checks, hero bets, villain calls.
Did I miss some reraises Here on the flop and turn.

Hand#3

Folded to middle position LAG/Maniac(plays 8 out of 10hands) who opens,
Hero CO:makes it three with Js10s
Button Fish: calls,blinds fold, back to the original opener who calls

three handed to the flop: 10h 8s 9s

Maniac leads, Hero re-pops, button calls, Maniac calls

Turn: 3 spades.

Check, Hero bets, Button calls, maniac calls,

What is my best line pre, post and turn?
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01-27-2011 , 05:27 PM
Hand 1: lot of people here take the line of almost always just flat calling from the BB when heads-up as a range balance. It doesn't really cost you anything if your opponent fires any flop. Your line is fine though, especially against a LAG.

Hand 2: I'd raise the turn here like always. His line suggests he has a strong hand, so we're not really worried about him folding here. All of his big pairs are drawing dead except a set of Tens, but if he has a spade he might not know that and he's likely not letting KK or QQ go even with a raise. You missed a ton of value here, best case he 3-bets you and you 4-bet with the nuts and collect one more on the river when he cries (or 2 more when he has the Ks and makes second nut flush).

Hand 3: line looks good to me.
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01-27-2011 , 05:47 PM
Hand1: is call pre, c/c flop, c/c turn, and in this case, I hit the nutz on the river: c/r or donk value river

Also, in the bb against a late position raiser what should be my three betting range?

77+, aj thru ak, ??

Hand#2 made me sick...because I felt I missed alot value, I was playing very aggressive for most of the session, and for some weird reason I contracted FANCY PLAY passive weak syndrome in this particular hand.
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01-27-2011 , 05:49 PM
Why in the world would you not raise the turn?
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01-27-2011 , 05:58 PM
when it doubt raise it out!
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01-27-2011 , 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MitchL
Why in the world would you not raise the turn?
Brain Fart!!!!! I know.....bad, thoutht I would get into a 3 bet war on the river, didnt think he check the river....
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01-27-2011 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sammygoodones
thoutht I would get into a 3 bet war on the river, didnt think he check the river....
Why would you expect to get into a raising war on the river?
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01-27-2011 , 08:21 PM
Some terminology clarifications that you should use:

In hand 1, button "opened" or "raised" or "open-raised" the button. He did not bet.

In hand 2, on the flop, hero "raised" or "popped it up" when the maniac led.

A raise is putting in an extra bet after someone puts in a bet or raise. A re-raise is putting in an extra bet after someone raised. You cannot "re-raise" or "re-pop" a bet.
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01-27-2011 , 08:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain R
Some terminology clarifications that you should use:

In hand 1, button "opened" or "raised" or "open-raised" the button. He did not bet.

In hand 2, on the flop, hero "raised" or "popped it up" when the maniac led.

A raise is putting in an extra bet after someone puts in a bet or raise. A re-raise is putting in an extra bet after someone raised. You cannot "re-raise" or "re-pop" a bet.
Actually I find it a really good practice to say "reraise" with a big goofy grin when I am bluffing in a game I have never played in before after my opponent bets.
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01-28-2011 , 01:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MitchL
Actually I find it a really good practice to say "reraise" with a big goofy grin when I am bluffing in a game I have never played in before after my opponent bets.
Expert --

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-bluff-967676/

This is like when HammerinHank puts out another bet next to his 88 in blackjack and the dealer has to ask him "sir, are you splitting or doubling down?". He's a +EV blackjack player, but does this to pretend like he doesn't know how to play.

It's like so dumb, it might actually work.
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01-28-2011 , 11:40 AM
Hand 1 is fine but I typically call pre-flop. Against a guy with a super-wide range I would 3-bet though. If you take the calling line then you get to c/r the turn which usually takes it down right there if villain has no K.

Hand 2 why not raise the flop? Can take optional free card on the turn assuming villain has JJ or QQ. Or if it gets re-raised, you can 4-bet flop or just call down. In this case you get to raise the turn. As played, raise the turn.

Hand 3 is fine.
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