Your two points are not mutually exclusive.

Seriously, that last NPP post was one of the most bizarre things I've ever read on these forums. I would have flamed it, but I thought I may have been getting levelled.

Do your worst.

Joker, I care. Only cause it's happening to me now and I want to stop it before reaching your epic levels.

I'm break even since mid may or something. But for the year, I'm alright.

I am a lifetime loser in:

the bellagio
bay area 40/80 games
Ajs 15/30

I anticipate the healing powers of the oaks and garden city will be much like those tubs in "wanted". Now I just need Angelina Jolie and a drunk Russian guy and I'll be good to go.

Also...I'm attending an outdoor wedding tomorrow. It rained like an inch in 30 minutes today. Variance coming.

Poker is a total mind-****, PJ, as we all should know by now. You win steady and you are the best ever, the rest of them suck, you wonder why they even stay at the table with you and you wonder if you should move up, up, up and/or buy something sweet that you've always wanted. Run horrible and you are a POS that was NEVER any good, it was all illusion and luck and you've sucked all along worse than the rest of them and what is happening now is the real deal.

I wish you better luck and fortitude.

As for myself, I'm riding out the very same scenario at 8-16. It's been 3 months and just starting to turn around. I get the 'funny looks' from the 20 regs but to heck w/ them.

And you get the funny looks from me also, a 4/8 regular...cause I suck at keeping a bankroll.

If any of you dudes want to give me live cash for online over the next week, for like I dunno a free hour of coahing? I only want like $500ish max. I'm just on holidays, and I would like some extra gold thats all...

PM me plz

JT

im just a fishy player, read 0 books, dont know much about the things u guys talk about here and chose to ignore it. as long as im makin money its all good for me. Soon as i stop makin money i will look into getting educated about poker.

As of right now i could care less about being a "good" poker player. its only about bottom line to me.

Canterbury Park must have the nicest players ever. I can't remember the last time I've spent 5 hours in a mid-limit game and not had anyone wish fiery greasy death on me, or vice versa. I'm told it's because the CP staff is good about keeping things civil, or maybe it's just a Minnesota thing. Either way, it's probably the most pleasant time I've had playing poker in years, so good job CP.

That said, I had the misfortune of seeing a comically bad dealer on both nights I was there. I'm not sure what exactly he was doing while pitching cards, but I swear that some of the cards were actually going backwards. I'd see a hand with a card in it coming in my direction, and somehow the cards would always land basically in the middle of the table.

Also, it's super weird that everyone (including dealers) actually says things like "3-town".

What I meant is that people often say to themselves mid session "ok that was a bad play, I'm not playing my A game right now, I need to fix this or quit" and that's a good self analysis, very important to do that. But what they miss is probably 20+ smaller mistakes that just didn't register as "mistake!" but that they would not make when playing their true A game.

You are correct that small edges make a greater difference once you are already "good", but that goes along well with my point (as LOLmitHE said) that when you are playing B game, you make mistakes in many of these small-edge spots without necessarily realizing it.

A really good way to see this phenomenon in practice is to observe really bad players on days they are running great and confident. They will play much tougher in situations where they are almost accidentally playing well. They will be more random, more aggressive, and also capable of folding a hand that normally they would pay off with. The A game / B game gap of a fish is exaggerated compared to that of a really good player, but not as much as we'd hope.

Yikes.

I think we should have some kind of award to who runs the worst on 2p2. We need a couple of candidates though. I nominate HOWMANY and Private Joker. any other contenders?

I would nominate myself but that seems kind of self serving. I'm a losing live player in 2009 though, stuck 45k over my past 140 hours at Bay101.

Two nights ago I got 2 outted and 1 outted on the river within the first 30 minutes of sitting down, though I somehow won a stack or two before I finally had enough. Last night I got runner-runnered close to perfect twice in 15 minutes.

First hand I have ATss vs Ad6h. Flop Th 9s 5s. Turn 6c. He donks. I raise. River 6d. I get c/r'ed. Sad panda.

Second hand I get KK vs K8o. Flop 733. Turn 8. He c/r. I 3bet. River 8. He donks. I call. Angry panda.

Yet somehow this session I won $1200. Let the sick beats keep coming as long as I book the W!

I'm not talking about your play, which I don't know much about aside from you banking like God last year. I'm talking about how much you seem to hate your customers. You'd do better, imo, to think of yourself as a sort of shadow ally of the house, whose job it is to keep the fish happy or at least serene while they drain away their money. Why would you not want the players who make awful decisions to be happy and self-confident? They'd be *correct* to feel discouraged and unsure. And as we all know, poker is a game of getting paid for being right, courtesy of the ones who are wrong.

I think I just went 3 whole hours online without getting 2 outted which is pretty incredible since I can't go more than 3 minutes without getting 2 outted live.

And the time I misclick coldcalled with a terrible hand I made a full house.

The only bad thing was that one player kept raising me on every dry flop and 3 betting me pf constantly and every time I played back at him he had the nuts and since I haven't played with him before I have no idea if he was a spazz and I was folding at the wrong times or if he was just running good against me. Then someone else tried doing it to me and I showed him who the boss was when I peeled K3 on AJ5 or something and made the wheel and beat his AJ.

No clue how ppl play long online sessions, after 3 hours my body feels like it's going to fall apart and I'm ready to go back to sleep.

we could do it march madness bracket style. I think I might make the elite 8 with the right time frame.

wow, really?

I mean, how can you say stuff like this and then declare that the "wrong" people are winning? You confess to being clueless with regards to poker theory, so how do you know that you weren't just one of the idiots running good last year? Do you feel entitled to run good forever? If so, do you feel this way because of, or despite, the fact that you put zero effort into your game?

I mean, do what you want, feel how you want to feel about your opponents, expect what you want to expect. But man, I'm gonna flame the **** out of your posts in the future. Saying stuff like this in a forum full of players (apparently) trying to improve their games is just straight-up insulting.


But yeah, keep doing what you're doing, I'm sure it'll keep working. Maybe you're not really a 3BB/hour winner, but 2BB/hour longterm isn't awful either. Hopefully someday soon the fish start running bad and they'll start losing their confidence, then they will all go broke, and that'll be the healthiest thing possible for the games.



****ing idiot

In before joker attempts to de-escalate.

Can someone who's logged a lot of hours with Parker confirm or deny my suspicion that he's just kind of a fish who has simply run unbelievably good? PM is fine, I wouldn't want to call a fish out in public either.

I guess I'm the only candidate in running for pit games.

Serious question - why do you care?

Parker set himself up to feel my wrath.

ETA: I've agreed to back off slightly. I've been asked to not stir up a ton of controversy, and also been informed that Parker is quite a nice guy in-person. I still think he's a douche-tard, but I've given him enough crap for one day.

Oh. Well, carry on then.

Live Texas envy.

Psssssh, pretty sure you know which 2 consecutive contentless posts of Parker's got him on my **** list.

NC thread dawg. I feel you though. Love how people want to bite the hand that feeds them, but I also feel Parker's pain. There is a guy at the Oaks that is on the heater of a lifetime. He is absolute aggrotard. He does crap like cr queens oop on a Axx flop in a hu 3bet pot. Ofc I always have KJ and bluffraise the turn, because I know he never has an Ace. Of course he calls down, because its real easy for me to float the flop cr, and raise the turn on a drawless board without an Ace. He knows he runs too good for me to ever outflop him. He isnt an outright fish, but he makes aggro-boneheaded plays that are constantly rewarded. Bdaddy can attest to the horeshoe jammed in his ass.