20 temporarily 6 handed.

Loose, weak player limps UTG, folded to me in the SB and I raise 7d7s, TAG BB who doesn't do the flat thing 3 bets, we both call.

KhKs6h....Is there any merit to donking?

I realize this subject is taboo on TwoplusTwo. Please forgive me!

I would chk with intention of chk/raise flop or chk/3betting flop based on how loose UTG is.

Would only donk here if goal was to bet/3bet flop for me personally.

unlikely.

I'd use this hand to call down

What do you mean doesn't do the flat thing?

This is a spot where he should not be folding too much, and I don't think most people are crazy enough to 3b 50%+ here.

Maybe you can bet and fold if raised because he won't raise with AQ, AJ, AT? This would provide a little protection and help you get away early.
Only problem is I don't think you can balance this donking range and it opens you up to over folding or helping your opponent get away early.
I think this spot is interesting. Calling down 2.5 big bets seems -EV. Maybe check call, check call, fold some rivers?

I should have titled this "I never donk here". I'm not overly concerned with balance. It's not my intention to create a donking range. I'm just focused on this particular part of my range on this board against two other players. I have a feeling donking may be the more profitable play, but I'm not sure about that.

I agree that calling down seems -ev. I also think we can be put into tough spots...It goes bet and raise to us on the flop. This is a scenario were we are going to make mistakes due to the marginalness of our hand. It seems that if we do make a mistake, it will cost less by donking(maybe).

I think live you can get a decent read by how the BB responds to the donk. I think it kind of disarms him. You can thwart his intention to power through the hand. It may prevent him from over aggressing here in the future.

I mean what flat thing are we talking about? Are you saying this vil looks down at 86s, getting what will likely be 5:1 on his money to go 3 ways, and just slams in the 3 bet against what's likely a strong SB range?

I don't really see any merit to anything but xc. If the limper is the kind of fish who raises a 6 on this board, I might exlloitatively 3 bet him

I mean he doesn't flat big hands here like AA's.

I think check/3 betting this flop would not be good.

BB range sounds very wide. Dry flop emboldens him to at least double barrel wide. Why exactly do you hate calling down?

HU I don't mind calling down. Three ways I'm not loving it. I never said I hated calling down. I'm just throwing out an alternate way to play this.

77 is very high up in your range. Your default should not be to fold it, esp considering BB seems aggy with a wide range.

Re: donk. It's an option. Esp good if BB is able to raise worse. I think you're strong enough to xr, bet turn for fe, hate life calldown if raised.

There’s definitely merit to donking. Just not with this hand

Agree w/ this, plan on calling down (unless the ace pops). The board is better for the 3b range than yours. I'd be more inclined to develop a donking range on a board that is not favorable to a 3bettor. I wouldn't really think about donking on this board with anything.

Which hands might have donking merit IYO?

So what does that tell you about the strength of your hand? Plus, nobody has yet bet so it might even check through.

I'd check call for one bet and check fold for two on the flop.

I’d mix between some Kx, flush draws and a combo or two of AA. Overall though, not donking much at all really.

Disagree that this is taboo. 10 years ago, people cbet way too much and most people didn't donk in shorthanded spots because villains were 100% betting. Modern players know checking back spots, and that forces you to consider donking spots.
I think he's considering villains who flat all the hands they play and pointing out that this guy has both a calling and raising range.