Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Mid-High Stakes Limit Discussions of mid-high stakes limit Texas Hold'em

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-25-2019, 05:40 PM   #1
Snap It Off
centurion
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 156
Fearing the Royal

8-16 I hold Kd9d 3off and open raise. Loose player calls in cutoff with both blinds calling (BB is TAG).

Flop comes KsKhQh. I bet and they all call.

Turn comes Jh. Blinds check, do you check or bet?

Side note, I believe if I check that cutoff will check as she's loose but not aggressive or tricky.
Snap It Off is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2019, 06:00 PM   #2
ninefingershuffle
veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,280
Re: Fearing the Royal

Awful card but you have to bet.
ninefingershuffle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2019, 06:47 PM   #3
JLot
centurion
 
JLot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 100
Re: Fearing the Royal

You have to bet here. There are hands you'll have in your range which are worse and can check, hands like QT or JT. Trips is too strong and you'll called by worse here for sure. Don't fear the reaper... if you're scared, get a puppy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg
JLot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2019, 08:04 PM   #4
Snap It Off
centurion
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 156
Re: Fearing the Royal

Reasons to bet are against hands like AQ, AJ, QT, JT and J9 who have a gut shot.

Reasons to check are against hands like "better kings" AK (KT chops) or any made hand (straight, flush or full house).

So if you bet and are check raised, are you really drawing live? Would someone with AT check raise with a flush out there and a paired board?

That swings the pendulum back to betting since some weaker made hands won't check raise the turn and still makes the draws pay to hit their gut shot which could also be a gut shot with a flush draw (AhJs etc).

A final question is if a brick falls on the river, against how many callers on the turn will you still feel free to value bet the river?
Snap It Off is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2019, 12:08 AM   #5
DrHoldemPhD
centurion
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 110
Re: Fearing the Royal

Refuse to give AhXx a free river, make him pay.
DrHoldemPhD is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2019, 12:46 PM   #6
COCOCHANEL
grinder
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Between New Orleans and AC
Posts: 478
Re: Fearing the Royal

Bet!!
COCOCHANEL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2019, 12:50 PM   #7
COCOCHANEL
grinder
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Between New Orleans and AC
Posts: 478
Fearing the Royal

And if you get raised, call sometimes, and 3! sometimes. And if the board pairs on the river, bet again!

You canít be nuts-spooked in LHE. It will cripple you. Instead, you have to know that running into the nuts will happen... a LOT! But they will also run into your nuts a lot, and when you take the proper, aggro line in spots like these, you will max your EV for the several, various reasons stated above.
COCOCHANEL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2019, 02:32 PM   #8
NittyOldMan1
journeyman
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 215
Re: Fearing the Royal

you are ahead here more than you think so bet. loose players will call this flop with all kinds of trash. no one thinks you have trips yet by your flop bet.

in limit if you have top pair or better the rule is to keep betting until someone tells you you are probably behind, then call down anyway.
NittyOldMan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2019, 07:33 PM   #9
jdr0317
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 6,427
Re: Fearing the Royal

Bet. Even when behind you're rarely dead. You can still be called by any hand with a heart in it as well.
jdr0317 is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2017, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online