I'm not arguing. Just think it's an interesting hand to discuss.
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Originally Posted by mongidig
The problem with this play is that you are not always going to be called down on every street with worse.
Which I think is countered by the times you're ahead and give a free card to two players if CO decides to check back either flop or turn (over cards and back doors happen). I guess my line would depend on CO's continuation frequency on both flop and turn.
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Donking gives both players free information and therefore allows them to play more appropriately.
First, I should say I don't normally donk either, but just pointing out I don't yet see how it's terrible. I mainly disagree with this because you still have your whole utg range, which includes AA, KK TT, etc. I guess if you're never donking these hands then yeah, never do it. I guess also don't do it if you're not comfortable bet/3betting a lot of turns with AA and KK.
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You're not donking here with AQ or AK are you! You're probably not donking TT's KK's or AA's. What's left in your range?
Again, I think the dry board and the fact you still have your whole range makes donking a bit more attractive with these hands.
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Unfortunately, you're not going to always actualize that 1 bet per street and sometimes will have to pay more.
I'm not too worried about sometimes having to pay more as long as the pot size correlates with what I feel is the strength of my hand. And I feel QQ is strong enough here, although you could easily be right because you're the better judge of opps ranges here. I can think of many CO capping ranges that would leave me playing cautiously against. I just think a good pro is a bit wider than others seem to think with an utg+1 who plays fishy post.