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01-13-2019 , 02:00 PM
I open AKo UTG, Button calls, SB calls, and BB calls.

KdKc6s....Checked to me, I bet and all call.

KdKc6s8h....Checked to me.....The button and SB are pretty loose pre and loose peelers. The BB is tight.

I usually bet in this situation. I wonder if checking might milk out a few more bets than betting and hoping someone has a worse K or a pair they will call down with. If I check it looks like I'm giving up. Maybe I gain bets from a bluff. Maybe the button bets and the others feel better about their hands. If somebody has a K I'm gonna still get their money.

Or is the pot of such a size where I shouldn't get cute and just bet?
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01-13-2019 , 04:50 PM
Just keep betting.
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01-14-2019 , 07:56 AM
The 8 hits much of "3 to a straight/3 to a flush" flop peel range. Given that its still 3 opponents bet for value IMO. I can think of four reasons they call you on the flop:

1.) They are peeling a rando backdoor draw
Giving 54s/75s/97s/T9s a free card seems like the worst case scenario, plus they may try to turn a turned OESD into a bluff which would be great for you
2.) They are waiting to k/r a weaker King
Bet and raise for two streets of value. If you can trap a caller in between even better
3.) They are hoping to bluff catch an A high
The 8 doesn't really improve the bluffs in your range so bet to punish them for hero calling. Its harder for a low pair to go into hero call mode given that its 4 way pot, but it can still happen, especially given your read of BTN and SB
4.) They turn their hand into a bluff on the turn
Bet for more yum yum
Even if this was heads up on the turn I think I'd still bet. I imagine you only really induce a river bluff/thin value bet vs the type of player who would also be willing to turn their hand into a bluff on the turn.
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01-14-2019 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kainhighwind
The 8 hits much of "3 to a straight/3 to a flush" flop peel range. Given that its still 3 opponents bet for value IMO. I can think of four reasons they call you on the flop:

1.) They are peeling a rando backdoor draw
Giving 54s/75s/97s/T9s a free card seems like the worst case scenario, plus they may try to turn a turned OESD into a bluff which would be great for you
2.) They are waiting to k/r a weaker King
Bet and raise for two streets of value. If you can trap a caller in between even better
3.) They are hoping to bluff catch an A high
The 8 doesn't really improve the bluffs in your range so bet to punish them for hero calling. Its harder for a low pair to go into hero call mode given that its 4 way pot, but it can still happen, especially given your read of BTN and SB
4.) They turn their hand into a bluff on the turn
Bet for more yum yum
Even if this was heads up on the turn I think I'd still bet. I imagine you only really induce a river bluff/thin value bet vs the type of player who would also be willing to turn their hand into a bluff on the turn.
Nice post!

I agree. I always bet here. I tend to put my foot on the gas and miss spots where it makes sense to slow play. I'm just making sure I'm not overlooking something. Maybe make the turn a 2 and give myself a worse kicker a SP could make more sense.
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01-14-2019 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kainhighwind
Bet for more yum yum
^^^^^
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01-15-2019 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JLot
^^^^^


Never slowplay in multi-way pots. Please, please, please bet this turn
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01-17-2019 , 08:37 AM
the only reason to check is if you're confident button is betting
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01-20-2019 , 12:48 AM
Bet, not close. You described sb and btn as loose peelers, making a deceptive line much less attractive.
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03-09-2019 , 09:22 PM
no do not check the turn here to mix in passive play
mix in bluffs not checks here
this board generally favors you, the aggressor, because it has kings in it and your range is a lot of A(K-J) AA-88, maybe KQs, and their range is mediocre dog-shizzle
board overall is good for you imhe, therefore aggression
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03-18-2019 , 01:26 PM
The other two players do the job of protecting your check range vs BTN (since both of them could have a king). So there's really not much merit at all in checking. Also one of these players could be ready to spring the trap themselves; can't three bet them if you don't give them the chance to bet.

Generally speaking, if you're going to screwplay, you'd want to choose hands that can't three bet a raise but can raise a bet. Like K9s is a much better candidate, if we were going to try this. But given the conditions of the hand, I'd still be betting.
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03-18-2019 , 06:32 PM
You also have to let someone else who screwplayed a worst K lose as much money as they deserve to. Let them punish you for your overplayed AA.
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03-26-2019 , 11:32 PM
You can't 3! if you don't bet.
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