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Originally Posted by Victor
I mean like, I cant imagine any of your advisors suggested to check the turn or fold the river. thats insanity.
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Originally Posted by Snap It Off
Nobody suggested checking turn and folding river.
You might have mis-read Victor's post. He's says that not betting the turn is bad. Folding the river is also bad.
Mashing those together to check turn and fold river is horrible, and not what he suggested.
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Lines given were
1) Call check raise and wait until turn to raise. Once the straight card appears, just call turn and river unimproved.
2) 3-bet flop, bet turn, call check raise and fold river (one player).
3) 3-bet flop, check turn and call river
4) 3-bet flop, bet turn, call check raise and call river (my line).
5) 3-bet flop, bet turn, call check raise or 3-bet turn and call or raise river.
The bold part of 1 is MUBS.
2 is meh at best. Generally it is bad thinking.
3 is missing a lot of value via soul reading. I could see an argument for inducing a very aggro player in spots, but don't see that read here.
4 I like.
5 might be a little ambitious, but you could construct ranges...
It is hard to have a LHE hand where you can correctly raise for value on a street and correctly consider folding a hand this high up in your range. Once the pot size gets big, the bet size is so small relative to it that. You can argue how many more raises to put in or whether just to call. You can argue that the call is really thin and when to consider folding. Hard to have both in the same hand and have one side not just be terrible.
All this to mostly agree with everyone else.