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Originally Posted by stinkypete
expand on this? are you just saying it plays out a lot better with a one bet per street approach than with a flop raise the times you turn 2nd pair? obviously we're not folding if we get 3-bet...
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Flop T65. Villain bets, I call.
Turn Q putting up a flush draw. Villain checks, I check.
River 4r. Villain checks, I take a stab even though I don't really rep anything.
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Lets dump some gto in this thread. Spent most of my life studying this stuff.
bb range is capped preflop and dominated heavily by sb opening uncapped range.
on T65 sb should bet effectively his whole range, as his RvR EQ crushes his opponent.
...bb should then raise flop a bit less than normal
1) we're IP
2) we have a capped range
3) we don't have many strong value hands
as bb,
- the only monsters we have are T6o T5o and 65o, 65s should 3b preflop
- we could raise 2/3rds our Tx hands w\ good kicker
- rarely with a 6 (ace kicker, bdfd, or 3straight)
- rarely w\ 5 (same type as 6)
we're going to be raising sb cbet with ~225 combos, and ~30-35% of that should be bluffs. ~75
If we raise all combos of 98o, 97o, 87o that's already 36 combos... well over half of our possible bluffs. what about 74o? 43o? up to 60 combos now..
always using these types of hands as bluffs means that on a turn T657, you literally have no bluffs in your range anymore. A good player will exploit you by check folding a higher % as your range has too much equity.
We also want to be able to turn straights with those combos in our calling range. Another way it becomes unbalanced by always raising. LOTS of lags always raise these types of hands, it's extremely easy to play against. They also generally raise most pairs they make... leaving their calling range naked as fk. We counter them with higher turn + river cbet/bluffing frequencies.
I much prefer to sometimes raise all of the gutters, and include hands like -
- J9o, QJo, Q8o, Q9o that can turn big draws + overs
- A7o, a4o that has some weak showdownability and can xb some turns
- Q7s bdfd K4s Bdfd that has some weak showdownability and can barrel off on turn 7s to punish.
So yea, always doing X or Y in wide range spots is bad imo.
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Fwiw, I teach this approach to all of my students. I also speak about this as a commentator on the poker show:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkypete
expand on this? are you just saying it plays out a lot better with a one bet per street approach than with a flop raise the times you turn 2nd pair? obviously we're not folding if we get 3-bet...
So to answer this, we should raise the flop sometimes, obviously calling if we get 3bet. But we should often (and by often I mean usually) just call the flop here, preferring to spread our bluffs over many types of hands.
I don't check 2+2 as much as I used to... if y'all ever want to discuss strats w\ me hit me up on instagram or twitter. My handles are avoidthe9to5 everywhere