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Originally Posted by jdr0317
But we'd be value owning ourselves a fair amount, so not betting here misses trivial amounts of value.
We agree on this
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What's more important is that when a bet is thin to begin with for value, calling the raise is an abomination.
I would think folding the best hand getting >10:1 is more of an abomination
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There's no such thing as a good price for 0% equity.
This assumes villain is bluffing 0% of the time. In my games there are many players this is true of. Some not 100% true. And some, albeit very few, who would gladly turn something like KT into a check-raise bluff v. a value happy opponent who would snap fold and feel good about it
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But yeah thinking about it, KQ and diamonds got there so I just wanna take my hand to showdown.
Yes. A LOT got there including flushes, straights, and some two pairs. I'm all for squeaking out value but this is a spot where I'm willing to accept whatever equity top pair still has without complicating matters on such a gnarly river card.
Fwiw we also agree on this.. I don't like bet-call either and would prefer a 3 bet hoping villain mistakenly folds two pairs or even a straight. Calling seems the worst way to handle a raise