20-40. I raise with QsQh in cutoff and both blinds call.

SB is very loose, sometimes aggressive and capable of bluffing. BB is TAG.

Flop comes 9h9s8s. I bet and they both call.

Turn comes Kc.

1) Should I bet?

I bet and SB check raises with BB folding.

2) Should I call and call him down?

Yes, think you have to bet the turn. Based on your read I guess you have to call down, but I think folding this against an unknown or if TAG had CR would bebfine

I actually think bet fold is fine here.

Like what street is this dude capable of bluffing? Lots of people who are "capable of bluffing" do it all on the flop, and any xr on the turn on a 998-K board means QQ is basically dead.

Against an actual capable player I'm calling down. But I have one data point of how this dude plays: he flatted SB against a BTN open. Probably not a superstar.

+1

Doesnt hero have to call down sb given his description?

Cry call down hands with good removal like A8, not bad removal like QQ.

I think betting is fine but would rather check and get to SD than b/f

You would like to check and get to SD, well of course I would too, but you're giving free cards to two opponents with a straight draw, flush draw and ace over cards out there.

Heads up I probably check but against two I bet and trust the C/R and fold. Of course, the trickier the blinds are the more difficult a position you're put in as both actions (check or bet turn) put you at risk.

Never said I didn't prefer betting, but I'm never folding to this SB as described. My only point was checking seems better than bet/folding, since you're allowing yourself to get owned by all the draws you're afraid of giving a free card to imo

I agree!

I would also rather check and get to SD than bet/call down.

There are so many reads we need to better inform us as to what to do on the turn.

1) What is the SB 3b range pre?
2) Would SB fast play or slow play trips or better?
3) How would SB play a draw?
4) How loosely does the SB peel the flop?
5) Would he donk or CR a turned K?
6) Would he CR an 8 or worse for value/protection?
7) Can he be induced into a bluff on the river?

I think given the lack of information and all of the blockers we have in our hand sways me to checking back this turn. If I had a great read and felt I could get two more streets of value and could easily fold to a raise I would bet the turn.

This is a good turn to CR with a draw if you are the villain BTW.

You block strong draws with the Qs, and your hand doesn't need much protection if behind. I like a check here.

Why is it bad removal? Because the Q’s are used in straight draws/semi-bluffs?

Correct. Having the Qs particularly sucks here because QTss/QJss are fairly featured portions of what I'd expect a fishy opponent with a turn bluff button to show up with here, when they don't have a strong king or a 9.

If you pinned down his bluffs to specifically to combo draws then yea, this (along with JJ and TT with a spade) are the worst hands to bet/call. If his bluffs also include Ax of spades with similar frequency and even very occasional worse flush draws / bare open enders the Qs removal might actually be less relevant than the 5%ish extra equity you have with QQ against 9x (which is the large majority of his range).

They might both be folds too.

All hypothetical though since checking seems better.