BB...We don't get the opportunity a lot in BVB so my reads are a pretty small sample size. I'm also throwing in some assumptions of how I think this guy may play pre flop in this spot. He seems to be a decent lag/taggish player. He probably see's me as a fairly straight forward TAG. We are the only two players at the table who always play in BVB. This is a 20/40 time game.

I open SB, he just calls. He is defending probably 90 percent of his hands. I think he would 3 bet the top 40 percent of this range. Please feel free to question my assumptions of what a BB should be 3 betting here. I think he may just call with some of his lower Ax hands.

I think he is capable of delaying pairs and draws to the turn. I don't know at what frequency or on which board textures. I think he will follow through with a river bet if he was bluff raising the turn.

I have QTo

Qs6cJd.....I bet, he calls

Qs6cJd7h...I bet, he raises,

1) Should I 3 bet?
2) If you are villain, would you delay anything here given this board texture?
3) If you did delay, how thin would you value raise the turn?

I have done the math based on what I think he may be doing but I'm not sure if my assumptions are correct based on how the villain should play this. I'm curious about your thoughts from both sides of this.

I'd just call the turn raise and check/call unimproved rivers. I don't have many delays in my BB call range here. Perhaps a bad queen or flopped 2 pair. I'd also be raising the turn with a hand that made 2 pair with the 7 and a few straight draw bluffs like 89.

you should start chopping and make sure nobody who plays blinds is ever directly on your left

Why stop chopping? It's not a rake game.

Probably just a call down. I think you have a good hand to checkraise turn with though.

Check call bet. Easy game. If you need a because it's because he won't.

I think this is a perfect hand to CR the turn with. Would you consider b/3b the turn with AQ or KQ?

Pretty sure he means that you're costing yourself money by not chopping.

Are you guy's missing that this is a time game?

You're trying really hard to justify your bad turn 3bet by changing your reads after the fact and coming here to get people to tell you you played it good. If you were winning in the blinds you wouldn't do that.

I'm just asking questions. I saw a similar hand on a video where the instructor suggested 3 betting. This is not something I would do but maybe it is the correct play and I've been missing something.

I don't know how you came up with me trying hard to justify the play and get people to tell me I played it good. I'm just trying to hone in on the best play...maybe it's 3 betting KQ or AQ.

"If you were winning in the blinds you wouldn't do that"......That's a very shortsighted and uninformed comment.

My sim for BvB has the following turn ranges on this board:

C/R: AA, KK, 66, AQ, KQ, QJ, and 76

B/3B: QQ, JJ, 77, Q7, J7, Q6, J6, T8 (Bluff)

It likes a bet call with the QTo, but that's the top hand in its bet call range so C/R seems good too. It's interesting that it has very few bluffs on the turn and prefers to check raise a hand like QJ but bet / 3 a hand like Q6. Not really sure why that is, might have to do with some oddity of card removal that I don't grasp yet.

A1). Would not 3 bet.

Would call turn and reevaluate river not folding any run out.

C/R turn is probably best play as noted by Deathdonkey as an option.

A2). Would delay raise Qx, Jx, and OESD T9, KT on some frequency if I'm villain in BB. Depends on my game plan of what type of meta I want to create vs HERO BvB.

A3). Would delay as thin as Jx for value if I'm villain in BB vs HERO based on game history which seems low based on OP. Still MAY raise Jx for value to increase light call downs or spew 3 bets on turn OOP by HERO.

Depending on what I want to achieve as villain in BB.

QJ blocks a lot of value hands we could get raised by. Q6 blocks less I suppose. It is a little odd.

DD,
I've been noodling on this for a few days and think I figured it out. The hands in the turn C/R range which are stronger in terms of hand value (66, QJ) compared to certain hands in the B/3B range (Q7, Q6) are the B/3B candidates for the river. Turn C/R hands like AA or AQ will merely B/C inconsequential rivers, so the sim is carrying hands through each street which have sufficient strength for different actions on later streets. In order to do this it has to 'slow play' the turn by only C/R instead of B/3B these hands. I confirmed this by looking at some rivers for this board. Mindbogglingly deep, but thought provoking when considering how this concept extends to other areas of the game.

Very cool. It makes me think of a kind of old way we looked at lhe postflop where we sort of say “this kind of hand is worth 4 big bets on the big streets total, hows the best way to put them in?” There May have been some merit in approaching our range that way.