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11-06-2024 , 07:54 PM
Bike 40/80 on a Saturday night. 7 handed.

Villain is an older middle eastern guy. V sat in 2 orbits ago with 3 racks. First time V was under the gun he raised, MP 3 bet, and I capped the button with AA. V led the K high flop and I raised. V check folded the turn. MP stuck around and showed down KQ. V said something to his neighbor about MP hitting 3 so maybe he had QQ.

I think I look TAG as well as I’ve been getting good hands and hitting/holding with no real middling, interesting, tough decision hands yet.

Orbit or two later, villain is ordering dinner when I raise his BB from the button with AQo. V 3 bets and I just called.

Flop KQ2r.
V bets. I call.

Turn 4.
V bets. I raise. V 3 bets.
I mentally groan at my own shenanigans and fold.

- Would you 4 bet a mid-2000s-era TAG’s BB from the button with AQo?
- Would you just call the turn intending to call any river (or bet if checked to on the river)?

Thanks for reading.
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11-06-2024 , 09:05 PM
No to the 4bet, and I see no reason to raise turn and plenty of worse hands he can barrel so I would call
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11-06-2024 , 09:29 PM
What’s the point of the turn raise you are wa/wb?
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11-07-2024 , 03:27 AM
If you’re going to raise the turn you should have a plan if you’re reraised.

As played I would probably just call down an unknown villain. Most opponents who reraise from the BB have big hands.
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11-07-2024 , 12:56 PM
Looking back, I think I was running hot and got a bit too full of myself here trying to run over someone who I assumed was a bit of a nit. Definitely fancy played myself out of this hand and raised without even a concept of a plan. That’s probably why I can’t get this hand out of my head.

Thanks!
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11-08-2024 , 02:14 AM
I would not 4bet preflop, would not raise the turn, and would plan to call every street and bet if checked to.

As an aside, I haven’t had a chance to play much in the last couple of months and am surprised to see Bike running 40. Is this a new development?
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11-08-2024 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by asmitty
I would not 4bet preflop, would not raise the turn, and would plan to call every street and bet if checked to.

As an aside, I haven’t had a chance to play much in the last couple of months and am surprised to see Bike running 40. Is this a new development?
Yup, it’s busy again! I don’t entirely understand the politics that drive the periodic ping-pong the larger limit games go through between local card rooms but the pendulum seems to be swinging back to the Bike right now.

Last night had 2 40/80 tables, 1 60/120, and an 80 or 150 mix game going. Some of the recent pop could be the Big October tournament series going on too right now.
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11-09-2024 , 05:26 PM
The Commerce lowered the jackpot to $50k and quads or better have to be beaten to qualify. Commerce is now dropping $2 if there’s no flop and the high stakes poker area is awful. It’s like being in a cage. They have lost most of their medium stakes limit action.

Bike has $100k jackpot and their poker room is much nicer and the food is a lot better.

Unforced error by the idiots at Commerce.
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11-09-2024 , 05:33 PM
good ol commerce regressing back to their old ways. thought they had changed but apparently not.
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11-09-2024 , 08:08 PM
huh good to know i'll be in LA staying at commerce in a few weeks for 20-40, I guess I should consider going to bike for a night or two too.
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11-10-2024 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dinesh
huh good to know i'll be in LA staying at commerce in a few weeks for 20-40, I guess I should consider going to bike for a night or two too.
I played there last night. they had 6 games of 20/40 going at their highest.

some really good tables and some meh tables. had to wait for an hour to get in the game because they had a 20 person board at 4:30 pm when I got there lol
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11-10-2024 , 10:14 PM
Unfortunately with the Commerce shooting them selves in the foot the 40-80 action is significantly worse at the Bike. The weaker Commerce 40 players are either not playing or playing 20-40 with a half kill at the Bike.

Last edited by bruce; 11-10-2024 at 10:15 PM. Reason: Typo
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11-10-2024 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bruce
Unfortunately with the Commerce shooting them selves in the foot the 40-80 action is significantly worse at the Bike. The weaker Commerce 40 players are either not playing or playing 20-40 with a half kill at the Bike.
lol I noticed that, and it was good for me
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11-10-2024 , 11:59 PM
Weird, why would moving rooms make them move down in stakes?
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11-11-2024 , 12:40 AM
The bike 20 has a kill so maybe it attracted some of them to play it.
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