This isn't a strat post, but I still think this is where I should put it.

Typical Bellagio 40/80 lineup, with two to three winners and the rest breakevenish and losing recs. This changed when two high stakes NLHE players sat to play the 40 while waiting for seats in the big NLHE game. They started freely talking strat in way that I thought was harmless, i.E giving each other line checks. Sometimes they'd openly discuss their reads on the other players, but even this wasn't a big deal

What really irked me and another player was when one made a comment to the other that 'you shouldn't bet/3bet most flops IP in LHE.' My particular problem with this comment was that it addressed one of the most common and exploitable leaks that 40/80 recs have, which is to play more aggressively the greater the equity difference (often the flop) and to slow down and play passively when the equities get closer (turn and river). This leak is very profitable because certain recs essentially turn their hands face up when they play like this.

The comment went almost entirely unnoticed and nobody paid it any mind, but I couldn't help consider - what if the recs heard the comment, thought about it, and adjusted their play accordingly. They'd be eliminating a highly exploitable leak, and worse, this could ultimately lead to them developing a proper understanding of equity and being harder to play against. If, hypothetically, ALL the recs adjusted their play because of this comment, it would make the 40 alot less profitable. This didn't happen of course so we didn't make an issue out of it, but I still found the comment to be potentially dangerous.

Thoughts?

The comments are potentially dangerous. In reality, I think most people play the way they play and won't be changing their flop strategy because of these comments.

I do get why would would be irked.

Bellagio 40/80 anyone is changing postflop strat because someone says something, haha

stfu

plz

How many times have recs been told that open limping is bad? Do they listen?

Maybe they do. remember how much more open limping there was 10-15 years ago?

Follow them to the bathroom and deal with it there. No cameras

Bathroom attendants may look old and frail, but they are actually kung fu masters whose real job is to break up bathroom brawls. Don't say I didn't warn you!

Oh, please, chill out.

Didn't know this read for live. Will sure come in handy when I play live again.

Yeah, good information for limit holdem. Didn't want some donks at the table to hear it, but post it on the Internet.

Terms damaging and dangerous sounds like a bit of an overstatement. It’s just a poker game, no one is going to get hurt.

Whether players learn or not doesn’t seem like the issue. Just seems like it’s sucking the fun right out of the game.

And given that limit holdem is sort of on an endangered list, not really ideal.

I hate even bad strat talk because it means people are thinking about the game in terms of strategy rather than bingo poker… However it can be useful to hear how people talk about strat. Some of the best exploits come from listening to strat talk.

Yeah, OP sound like a lot of fun. Grinding the one remaining mid-high stakes table of limit holdem in Vegas, and maybe making less than in previous years.

You could just say that it's no big deal, I'm over reacting, chill out, etc. No need to be a smartass.

Yeah, making less than previous years for sure, but still a decent WR. I don't mind grinding the 40, it's mostly pretty soft and has a consistent player pool who are all exploitable in specific ways. That's probably why the strat talk bugged me (and again, not just me). Most of my WR comes from the same losing regs. If they were to wise up it would ruin the game. I know how paranoid that sounds, guess I can't help it. As you said, live LHE is endangered so I really appreciate every edge I have.

A Bellagio bathroom attendant taking care of business:

https://youtu.be/8tcIJvae1fI?si=1wPcbNBea0-uHIpC

Maybe my reading comprehension is impaired from being sick, but most of the time equities are closer on the flop and get further apart on the turn and river. Right?

I also thought that didn't make sense.

My bad for mixup. Will fix. Guess not to late to edit. Doesn't really matter toward general point. That strat talk at the table was irritating and might have hurt the game that's all. It didn't cause the apocalypse or the second coming for those of you who think my OP was filled with hyperbole. If it sounded that way I didn't mean for it to.

Hey, maybe you quoted the player correctly! It's not uncommon for people talking strategy at the table to be exchanging incorrect info or misguided ideas.

That may be, but these guys were recognized HSNL experts waiting for their big game, so I think they'd know better. Also why would somebody recommend delaying aggression if they believe their equity is gonna shrink?