Live 20. BB is my friend; very strong LAG who is aware that I have a strong range on the flop, given my UTG range + low propensity to cbet mw flops.

Action:

I hold A A UTG and raise. 2 cold calls, sb calls and bb calls

(10 sb) 9 8 6

I bet and only bb calls

(6 bb) 7

He checks, I bet, he raises, I call

(10 bb) 6

He bets, I raise.

That's a pretty ugly board for your friend to be betting into on the river. Your raise tells him you have at least an A high flush if not a straight flush or boat (AhTh and 99, possibly 88, are well within your UTG raising range). Will your friend call down a K high flush here? If so, that seems like his only call. And if he 3-bets...

At game speed I like raise/fold, at the post-game bar analysis I'd rather call here since his range is so strong here and I can only imagine him paying off your raise with a very small range of K high flushes. None of this applies if BB is some random who will pay off a wide range of flushes.

I mean you have to raise, you have the nut flush. It's pretty gross when you get 3bet, but you do still have a bunch of boats in your range still so it's not like he can abuse you by auto 3betting.

I call river. I expect to win a decent amount of the time, but against his value range (as opposed to his bluffing range and "I don't know what to do so I bet" range) I think you are not in great shape. He has so many T and 5 combos, as well as a non-zero number of boats.

I misread the river action and thought he c/r. As played I'd probably just call the river, his bet makes little sense with things you beat

I'd expect him to have a boat almost never here fwiw (as I don't think he'd be check raising that turn card if he delayed).

5 way pot with three likely bad players that do this:

I'm donking a ton of strong hands in the big blind on the flop. Then after you bet, he just calls when it's heads up? Then he check raises the turn in what is now a pretty big pot? That screams "draw that got there" imo, unless he's using this opportunity to have some fun with you because of this:

Of course, when he's in the blind vs an utg raiser that bets into 4 opponents likely isn't the best time to make a move. However, if he knows that you have a fold button like most of us do by now here on 2+2, this could be the perfect board to make a move.

Then on the river? I'd either raise and call a 3 bet, or I'd call and slowroll for some extra fun with a friend. I think it's quite close; if I win I'll probably make it up to him with beer next time we hang out; if I lose I'll probably request pork chops and applesauce for the next time we hang out. Win win imo.

6789 hhh why bet turn?

Looks fine

Because overpair and nut flush draw

I'd play it the same way, but looking at it in retrospect its probably better to just call river if your friend is a good reg

Fwiw I'm just calling the river. If you raise you sometimes get 3 bet, and I'm never ever folding to a 3 bet. If you raise he's sometimes folding and sometimes reraising. I don't think it's worth it.

Because he has nearly ATC and has a ton of hands on the turn that can call a bet as a result.

i don't understand this thread. what else are you supposed to do? and i doubt all the people saying call are ever bluff raising river either.

Seems like it would be pretty bad for him to B/C or B/F with a King, Queen, or Jack-high flush here. So although the Th and 5h make up smaller portions of all the hands he can have up until the turn, the river makes it so that you very possibly have an Ace or King high flush yourself, if not a full boat. So his range when he bets the river in vacuum might actually be straight flushes and boats only or a random bluff he'll B/F.

are you bet-folding this as a bluff representing 99, 88, or TT with the T of hearts?

I don't like the raise river simply because I don't see many worst hand calling you where your good.
If you know he won't bet/fold any flush than go ahead but if he can bet fold some river, i don't see much value to raising .
Ps: unless of course he can 3bet bluff river .

This is basically the rock bottom of my range here. It looks something like:

A hi flushes (3: AhA)
Boats (9: 77/88/99)
Quads: (1: 66)
Straight flush (3: ThT)

I'd probably turn two black tens into a bluff (and yes I know it's a T hi straight. It's no good).

So if he 3 bets, I'm clearly 4 betting with the Th, cry calling my quads and boats, turbo folding my bluff.

So this is a value raise, and no bluff i would have on this river facing the initial bet would be a flush.

He has the 3rd nut flush.

Can we discount full houses here?

Do Sets/2 pairs often raise the turn with a flush and 4 to a straight out there?