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03-23-2024 , 03:40 PM
I open Ac7s from the button and only the BB calls. He is loose and does like to bluff if given rope.

QcQs3c...He checks, I check.

QcQs3c4h...He bets. Is the plan to call down given my bluffy opponent? Is my flop check back reasonable or should this be a bet.
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03-23-2024 , 08:11 PM
Against this opponent, if he will auto bet twice after you check back then it might be expert to do so. Just call twice and print if he is super aggro after you show weakness.

That’s how I’d play it with your reads.
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03-24-2024 , 03:15 PM
Remember that we're choosing between options here, trying to find the best one. So what's not said is that you think this guy no play decently versus bet? I think the pool under defends in this spot so just make sure that you're not giving up too much betting line.

In the same vein of thought, I think I'd rather bet with the ace of clubs and a spade in hand and check the diamond heart combo of this hand. Our current holding blocks a decent portion of his easy to find continues
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03-24-2024 , 07:52 PM
Bet the flop
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03-24-2024 , 09:16 PM
I think checking flop is expert here. I don’t know that I’d do it against someone good but it seems like you need a check back range in this spot and this is a pretty good hand to have in it.
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03-25-2024 , 04:51 PM
Fine but then this isn’t a post. You check to induce and you’ve done so
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03-29-2024 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
I open Ac7s from the button and only the BB calls. He is loose and does like to bluff if given rope.

QcQs3c...He checks, I check.

QcQs3c4h...He bets. Is the plan to call down given my bluffy opponent? Is my flop check back reasonable or should this be a bet.
what sort of range do you put villain on, and how is your hand doing against that range?
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03-30-2024 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar
what sort of range do you put villain on, and how is your hand doing against that range?
Cut and paste.
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03-31-2024 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Cut and paste.
i'm not sure what you mean
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03-31-2024 , 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Cut and paste.
sorry - i'm not sure what you mean
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04-01-2024 , 02:41 PM
Let's talk theory first. In theory, this is a 100% continuation bet on this board, which heavily favors the preflop aggressor. That said, choosing to check back the flop is only a ~ $3 mistake (20/40) according to Mr. Compy. When our opponent bets the turn card we have a clear call. Folding this turn is another $7 mistake... in theory.

Now let's consider the situation where our opponent does not have a 3b range pre. The old call with my entire range and MESS YOU UP later strategy. Now our opponent has all of the strong hands that we have in their range, reducing our preflop range advantage and forcing us to dampen down the aggression some. Mr. Compy now checks back about 20% of it's range on this board. With our particular hand A7o, the EV of betting and checking back is now the same, so it does check back about 15-20% of the time. Interestingly, if we do check back this flop, folding the turn would be now be a $17 mistake.

I believe this is what BBB is poking at. Depending on how we think our opponent plays preflop (call only vs. 3b range) has an impact on how we should play the flop. If we have no information, you can't go wrong with theory, but if we notice our opponent does or does not have a 3b range pre, we can adjust to optimize our play against him. Ahhh... the value of paying attention.

J Lot

Last edited by JLot; 04-01-2024 at 02:52 PM.
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04-21-2024 , 02:09 PM
thanks for such a nice thread.
i would call turn - in most cases you have 6 outs.
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