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Old 05-12-2018, 07:17 PM   #1
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99

3 handed 40mix

bb super loose that plays ost post
btn tilted over aggro player

i 3bet sb 99, call call

jt5r
bet call call
7
check check bet, i call, fold
4
i check call

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Old 05-12-2018, 07:38 PM   #2
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I'd bet the turn.
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Old 05-12-2018, 07:42 PM   #3
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I think itís well played.
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Old 05-12-2018, 09:33 PM   #4
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I think itís well played.
does it change anything if the turn was a 6?
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Old 05-12-2018, 10:32 PM   #5
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does it change anything if the turn was a 6?


Not for me.
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:44 PM   #6
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Re: 99

What is "ost"?
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Old 05-13-2018, 08:03 PM   #7
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I think itís well played.

+1.

I think its standard how you played OP especially if confirmed by OnTheRail15.
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Old 05-13-2018, 10:35 PM   #8
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What is "ost"?
I believe "osting" is when someone bets ost of their range when checked to but not quite Most of their range.
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Old 05-13-2018, 11:15 PM   #9
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Re: 99

Almost certainly I was tilted over-aggro player in this hand.
Missing from the details is that I straddled button and river was sadly not a 4 as that would have given me two pair.

I don't dislike c/c down here, player in question will likely try to value-bet worse pairs on both the turn and river.
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Old 05-14-2018, 12:14 AM   #10
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no, you forgot to straddle this one. might have even been 4handed
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Old 05-15-2018, 02:24 AM   #11
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yeah i prefer checking turn than betting.
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Old 05-15-2018, 02:50 AM   #12
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yeah i prefer checking turn than betting.
Hero did check the turn, if I'm understanding correctly.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:45 AM   #13
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Re: 99

If we make the turn a 6, I feel like I want to bet-fold the turn. It is very nice to charge a bet to any Ax, Kx, Qx, 9x, 8x or underpair that happens to be in there. And I feel fairly comfortable folding to a raise because we have so few ways to improve and have blockers to potential semi-bluffs they would be raising with.

But with it being a 7, betting is less compelling because we can't really fold to a raise once we have the gutshot. Although even with it being a 7, I still think it's close between bet/check.
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Old 05-16-2018, 03:32 PM   #14
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check flop, not close.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:34 PM   #15
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If we make the turn a 6, I feel like I want to bet-fold the turn. It is very nice to charge a bet to any Ax, Kx, Qx, 9x, 8x or underpair that happens to be in there. And I feel fairly comfortable folding to a raise because we have so few ways to improve and have blockers to potential semi-bluffs they would be raising with.

But with it being a 7, betting is less compelling because we can't really fold to a raise once we have the gutshot. Although even with it being a 7, I still think it's close between bet/check.
this was my line of thinking too
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check flop, not close.
i also considered this, but in this specific situation, i think ranges are too wide not to charge. bb and btn have q5o in their range.
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Old 05-22-2018, 02:28 AM   #16
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Re: 99

'Charging draws' is often the wrong way to think about poker. They talk[ed] about it so much on TV, its often engrained in people's minds, but you gotta look further.

Charging other draws only applies if we are ahead. The times we aren't ahead, we are *way* behind, and charging ourselves extra. The times we are ahead, we are often pushing a small EV edge. Giving a free card can also let people catch up to inferior pairs/draws, which will pay off on later streets. It's not all bad.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:14 AM   #17
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what do i have when i check tho? checking just turns my hand face up.
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