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Originally Posted by phunkphish
What's the reasoning behind "Raise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Call".
-We are OOP. -It's already 3bets: BB is already dissuaded from continuing. Us making it 4bets has a small effect on getting BB's dead money. It's not like CO opened and we are OTB. If in a 5bet game, we increase our risk of putting in 5bets while dominated. It's really fine to split your range and have a decapitated flatting range. So many cons to 4b or fold, esp in this spot. I think people get stuck in hard and fast rules without adapting.
@stinkypete Cool Drive-bys?
@DD. 66 and AQ do not run close to equity in 3way pots. AQ is way ahead because it can dominate so many hands. 66 is also well ahead of TJs, and slightly ahead of JQs; not just 67s. You are underrating 66. The only reason to dismiss 66 is because of 'playability' -- ironically something you say is overrated compared to equity.
Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
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30% | 29.17% | 165,397 | 20,897 |
20% | 32.19% | 181,140 | 25,723 |
AsQd | 38.64% | 215,713 | 34,008 |
Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
---|
30% | 31.00% | 180,407 | 11,863 |
20% | 35.72% | 208,561 | 12,236 |
66 | 33.28% | 198,035 | 3,930 |
Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
---|
30% | 33.15% | 189,015 | 20,705 |
20% | 37.69% | 216,896 | 19,452 |
TsJs | 29.16% | 168,558 | 13,736 |
Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
---|
24% | 29.87% | 169,176 | 21,937 |
16% | 33.36% | 186,542 | 28,992 |
AsQd | 36.77% | 202,662 | 37,726 |
Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
---|
24% | 32.14% | 187,211 | 11,874 |
16% | 36.17% | 211,209 | 12,251 |
66 | 31.70% | 188,417 | 4,179 |
Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
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24% | 33.05% | 187,713 | 22,051 |
16% | 39.03% | 225,165 | 18,978 |
JsTs | 27.92% | 160,567 | 14,849 |
Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
---|
24% | 32.32% | 183,624 | 21,564 |
16% | 38.51% | 222,018 | 19,086 |
JsQs | 29.17% | 167,820 | 15,412 |
Please note we agree to Disagree and that DeathDonkey, BK, and StinkeyPete all have advocated folding regardless of whatever math you want to put out there to conclude you are correct.
Kindly keep playing this way of calling 3 cold as in my view that classifies you as having a leak regardless of whether other parts of your game are expert.
To answer your question, the reason why I fold preflop is that I think 66 plays poorly especially when calling 3 cold without the initiative in which you literally are guessing opponent hand ranges while being unable to rep strength if for example we 4 bet preflop and c-bet flop, turn, the river on certain run outs.
Familiar with 5 bet games as I used to play in Canterbury which if I recall was a 5 bet game.
Not familiar with cold callling 3 bets as I primary played 6max as a prop on AP or HUHU on Fulltilt and on AP while getting 100% rakeback as a prop on AP so being in a situation of facing 3 bets was rare for me when I used to play.
Now when I play, it's mainly the softest 20/40 half kill game at Horseshoe Hammond in which I do not encounter situation where facing 3 bets on SB I would consider calling with 66 as being correct.
Also, my BB/100 on Tracker from SB was horrendous as it should be for most which concludes me to attempt to avoid potentially -EV sitaution in which folding would mitigate the potential -BB/100 amount from the SB.
As stated earlier, lets just agree to disagree since it appears you are dead set firm on your opinion that 66 is correct to 3 cold on SB per actions posted by OP.
Regards,
Maka