Decent 30/60 game with a few live ones.

V1: slightly fishy TAG who probably beats this game for a small amount. Often very sticky.
V2: Erratic player who shifts from TAGfish to the passive any-two suited type. A decent bit of antagonism between the two of us, and he takes weird shots at me. Earlier in the session he 3bet my utg open, and then checked every street on an AQ-high board, allowing my king-high to win.

Hand:
V1 opens UTG, V2 flats next in, folds to me and I call Qs5s in the BB.

Flop Td 5d 2c
I check, and it checks through

Turn Qc
I check, V1 bets, V2 calls, I x/r, V1 calls...
Here v2 goes into the tank for maybe 15 seconds. At first he pretty quickly (but not overtly) grabbed a full stack of chips seeming like he was going to raise, but he paused, seemed confused, and then finally DOES put in the 3bet.

I...?

4bet.

I know that checking the turn lets you k/r/4! when leading would only allow you to b/3!, but the turn card isn't necessarily likely to help anyone unless they have a club draw. There are now two flush draws on the board, and a straight draw that better matches the villains' ranges. It would be sad to see the action to get checked through once more.

I'd lead the turn with intent to three-bet.

Standard, but there IS a huge tell here. When fish stop to think, they're thinking ABOUT something. Given his subsequent line, it's hard to imagine he's thinking about anything other than how to play a monster. If he wanted to semi-bluff, he would have raised at the first opportunity.

You sure as hell can't fold, because V2's erratic and "takes weird shots". But you could call down, and it's not horrible.

I can't see 4 betting or calling being bad options. Just don't fold.

I put in the 4th bet and feel ok about it. You can't get re-raised. I'm having a hard time constructing a range for V2 where this line makes sense particularly with only 3 players where one is the big blind. KJ/T9/TJ/A3/A4/A5cc, QXdd? It seems absurd for V2 to not raise QT on the turn for value. Who knows, he could be really FPS'ing Aces.

Also agree with leading the turn.

4! Because we still want to knock out v1 if possible

V2 hand looks like kq/qj/aq with diamonds

I agree about about leading overall. Against these two particular villains, I think I can expect a relatively close to zero-equity bluff stab after the flop checks through, but that may be wrong, and is too player specific to be the best overall play.

Anyway, I did indeed cap.

River 3d

Is anyone VBing this card? Seems like it may be better than the 3c, but with so much action going in on the turn against ranges that I perceived as weak, I chickened out.

I think check call is fine here. We aren't doing too well against value, but he can have bricked club draws that may make a dumb stab.

Sorry, I left out that they BOTH called. Editing post now.

I'd actually bet now. I expect to be beating V1 here like always (and he'll never place a bet himself unless he backed into something weird). So I like my chances of getting called by worse more than collecting a bet from air.

Probably folding to a raise from neither, V1 because it makes no sense and V2 because he's the kind of guy who may throw a tilt raise in here.

+1

As played, I like the 4 bet and bet/c river. If V1 is sticky like you say, I'm hoping he has Qx or even 10x. When I see V2 make this type of c/3!/c play on a draw heavy board, it makes me think he has a combo draw.

Thanks for the replies. After the fact, I was frustrated that I didn’t bet the river...especially when it checked through and I obviously scooped.

I like xc, villain can have diamonds here, or a weirdly played better made hand

Also if we bet b/f could be better than b/c

i just call. i don't see what value hands you expect to beat.