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Old 04-13-2019, 11:41 AM   #26
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Re: Is 3 betting and capping with at marginal hands in a $40/$80 game the norm?

ITT: nit on supernova heater learns about all the money he's left on the table.
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Old 04-13-2019, 05:25 PM   #27
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Old 04-13-2019, 10:36 PM   #28
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Re: Is 3 betting and capping with at marginal hands in a $40/$80 game the norm?

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Old 04-14-2019, 12:50 AM   #29
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Re: Is 3 betting and capping with at marginal hands in a $40/$80 game the norm?

How bad can not 3 or 4 betting AK really be if we shouldn’t be 3 betting JJ out of the bb multi-way or even raising QQ in 6-7 way limped pots. JJ and QQ are both better than AK.

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Old 04-14-2019, 01:17 PM   #30
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How bad can not 3 or 4 betting AK really be if we shouldn’t be 3 betting JJ out of the bb multi-way or even raising QQ in 6-7 way limped pots. JJ and QQ are both better than AK.
who says we shouldnt be 3 betting JJ and raising QQ? youd rather people get to play their 78 offsuit for cheap?

i like to think of limit hold em like you're the casino and the other players are your customers. you make them pay to hit their draws. sometimes they hit, most of the time they dont.
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Old 04-14-2019, 01:37 PM   #31
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Re: Is 3 betting and capping with at marginal hands in a $40/$80 game the norm?

Just had a horrible session last night where I kept losing to 2-3 outers over and over again. I just donít know how you can win in this game when you donít win as an 80-95% favorite over the course of the session. Sir you are running like god and I actually am happy for you for that, because I would not want to run how I ran last night.

I think I should have left after being down 2-3k but the game was so good. People kept on making stupid plays against me too and then getting there. Never had to deal with a session like that Sushi?
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Old 04-14-2019, 03:39 PM   #32
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Lol Is 3 betting and capping with at marginal hands in a / game the norm? funny you mentioned just got back a few hours ago and I got dealt AK 4 times in 3hrs of play tonight. I capped the **** out of it like you guys told me went 2/4 but I really should have won 3/4. Drunk guy called a 5 4 off suit in capped 4 way pot. Flop k 5 q two clubs I ram jam gets to 3bets on flop. Turn 4 I bet everyone calls, river 5 no clubs. he checks river the two players check and I reluctantly check behind thinking the river helped me but not 100% sure.

5 4 off suit lol makes a full house. Gonna run the numbers on this hand.

Ended the night with my win streak still intact $1377 in 3hrs.



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finally a strategy question ... bet the river
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Old 04-14-2019, 03:41 PM   #33
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finally a strategy question ... bet the river
Exactly what I was thinking
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Old 04-14-2019, 04:32 PM   #34
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Just had a horrible session last night where I kept losing to 2-3 outers over and over again. I just donít know how you can win in this game when you donít win as an 80-95% favorite over the course of the session. Sir you are running like god and I actually am happy for you for that, because I would not want to run how I ran last night.



I think I should have left after being down 2-3k but the game was so good. People kept on making stupid plays against me too and then getting there. Never had to deal with a session like that Sushi?


I have. they make two outs on you no matter what you have and itís brutal runner runner too. The dealer keeps giving u nut flush draws with a straight draw and u will miss both.(lol been there done that).

There are a few things I do to curtail my bad stretch. I wonít bet my nut draws and Iíll try to play for smaller pots. Iíll only raise in late position unless itís AA. If one dealer is killing me Iíll ask for a set up during their deal so he has less time to deal. or I walk around the casino until they leave. During this bad stretch itís very crucial to conserve chips until you feel your heater coming or win a big multi way pot. Tighten up your range especially from early bad position . Example: King nine suited, Q 10 from early is an auto fold .

If the game is good give yourself 5-6 buy ins (which I consider racks in whichever game u play). I always try not to exceed 4 buy ins because once you go over 4 itís hard to win it all back in the next session.

Letís see what else do I do when Iím stuck multiple racks. Since your range has tighten you will be sitting out a lot of hands, pay close attention to the game. I play a little game in my head and try to guess what every player is holding (youíll be surprised how much this relaxes u and gives u confidence when you correctly guess everyoneís hand).

Donít have a defeated mentality and keep thinking about how much youíre down. If you mentally beat yourself you wonít comeback. Keep thinking about the fishes in the game. They are gonna end up losing eventually. They are losing players losing thousands yearly. The most important thing to do is win a pot any pot!

Be prepared to play two days straight if you have to just limit yourself to 4-6 buy ins max!!! There are so many sessions where I was down to my last $100 but I caught my rush and ran over the table.

When you feel your rush coming on play everything. Itís so weird but youíll hit every flop with any two cards and always get there on the river. This is when you can really start bluffing your opponents and check raise them when you think they are on a draw or second pair. Nobody likes getting checked raised especially against a guy in a heater.

After playing for so long youíll start to see how your opponents play and Iím telling u itís like they might as well play with their cards open because you can feel what they have and you might have discovered a few of their tells that they are aware of.

#believe in the grind

Good luck.

Also, during my win streak when the game looks bad if Iím up $600 in the first 30 mins Iíll leave and book a win. No need to play or waste time in a crappy game.







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Old 04-14-2019, 04:36 PM   #35
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Oh and I want ever tip the punk dealer that burned me for 5 racks even if I hit jackpot that night.

Never tip, until youíre up. They are all mostly rude dealers anyway.


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Old 04-14-2019, 04:37 PM   #36
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Just had a horrible session last night where I kept losing to 2-3 outers over and over again. I just donít know how you can win in this game when you donít win as an 80-95% favorite over the course of the session. Sir you are running like god and I actually am happy for you for that, because I would not want to run how I ran last night.

I think I should have left after being down 2-3k but the game was so good. People kept on making stupid plays against me too and then getting there. Never had to deal with a session like that Sushi?
I feel you man. I had a cooler last night too. Table was super juicy so I recovered some and walked away with a lot of sklansky bucks overall but it was a rough night. I try to think of it like this, coolers put you in awkward spots where you can learn more and increase your edge. Silver lining.
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Old 04-14-2019, 04:37 PM   #37
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Oh and I want ever tip the punk dealer that burned me for 5 racks even if I hit jackpot that night.

Never tip, until youíre up. They are all mostly rude dealers anyway.


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Oh... Yeah must be troll
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Old 04-14-2019, 04:46 PM   #38
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Oh... Yeah must be troll


Iím dead serious. Why would I tip if Iím losing my butt off? Thereís a lady that plays at commerce for a living for many years (plays $60/120, to $100/200 )

Never tips even when sheís up and wins a massive pot. Not even $1.

And sheís a proven yearly winner.


At least I tip well when Iím running good.


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Old 04-14-2019, 04:51 PM   #39
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Oh... Yeah must be troll


Have you played at commerce those dealers are rude af?


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Old 04-14-2019, 07:03 PM   #40
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Iím dead serious. Why would I tip if Iím losing my butt off? Thereís a lady that plays at commerce for a living for many years (plays $60/120, to $100/200 )

Never tips even when sheís up and wins a massive pot. Not even $1.

And sheís a proven yearly winner.


At least I tip well when Iím running good.


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That describes half the Commerce regs
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Old 04-14-2019, 07:19 PM   #41
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Have you played at commerce those dealers are rude af?


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Who can blame them with how the players behave. It's a two way street.
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Old 04-15-2019, 01:37 AM   #42
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:47 AM   #43
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Re: Is 3 betting and capping with at marginal hands in a $40/$80 game the norm?

Players that don't tip deserve to get hit by a transit bus.
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Old 04-19-2019, 02:29 AM   #44
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Re: Is 3 betting and capping with at marginal hands in a $40/$80 game the norm?

you need to keep your range pretty wide if you are playing regularly against pros or players that actually pay attention to tendencies.

But over the top LAGGY players get crushed by us winning players because it's an easy style to counter.

Don't commit to one style if you play against the same population of players, you need to adjust your style to your opponents and the table. Playing the same style every session is one way street to losing or breaking even.
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Old 04-19-2019, 03:52 PM   #45
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you need to keep your range pretty wide if you are playing regularly against pros or players that actually pay attention to tendencies.

But over the top LAGGY players get crushed by us winning players because it's an easy style to counter.

Don't commit to one style if you play against the same population of players, you need to adjust your style to your opponents and the table. Playing the same style every session is one way street to losing or breaking even.


Solid advice. A lot of people in the $20/40 play the same way every time. Itís really easy to put them on hands and get them off a hand. Thatís why even if I donk off some chips Iíll get out of line and do some weird stuff and show my bluff when I get caught.


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Old 04-19-2019, 06:44 PM   #46
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Re: Is 3 betting and capping with at marginal hands in a $40/$80 game the norm?

yep, you can make boatloads following that advise.
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Old 04-20-2019, 01:15 AM   #47
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Solid advice. A lot of people in the $20/40 play the same way every time. Itís really easy to put them on hands and get them off a hand. Thatís why even if I donk off some chips Iíll get out of line and do some weird stuff and show my bluff when I get caught.
it's always a good idea to donk off chips and show your bluffs against opponents who are really easy to get off a hand
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