They have blue $1, green $2, red $5 and watermelon $25.

They have 8/16 and play with the $2 chips. They prob used to use them for rake but now they use a $5 and brown $3 (never in play). Some dealers take two red chips out and toss in two blue ($8 drop now) and some take two red out and toss in one green. I think you’re a better dealer if you put two blue back in the pot and I think you’re fishing for better tips if you put a green chip in the pot.

i quit being a pro 10 years ago when online started to die off. live poker for me was always for "fun". The reason being is live poker is hard to accumulate a solid sample. its just too slow. the variance is disgusting and now i just play small online again for fun. I have a job that pays excellent with above average benefits. the only thing i miss about being a poker pro is having full control over my time.

Lhe Std quite low. It correlated w variance. I would view the first 1.5/BB per 100 hands edge comes from standard gto solver work. The variance from this might be the most swingy. The next 1.5BB and beyond are quite stable but it require constant adaption to pop tendency and making a lot of exploitative adjustment. Beyond that mental game probably bring it to another .5-1/BB edge. In total i think it possible to do 4/BB 100 per online and 2/BB per hour live.

Of course standard deviation is correlated with variance. (standard deviation) = sqrt(variance) by definition.

I've been playing poker much less since 2020 as well - some combination of the 15-30 game at my local casino dying off and just getting busier at work. But I do miss it. Borgata stopped giving out rooms, Vegas comps are **** and costs are super high, it's all mostly kept me away from the tables.

Looking forward to 2024 though. Already have my annual trip to AZ planned after a couple years off, and pope says that the new room should be launched before then. Going to Vegas for march madness. My football team plays in LA next year as well, so I'll maybe make a triumphant return to Commerce. Everything's coming up Millhouse.

Details on the new poker room?

This is from their marketing:

yes I was trying to not be loud about the fact that high variance isn't why the game suck for him.

Funny. I feel like people on this site have been telling me this is impossible to do since I first started posting here. They used to tell me 1 BB/hr at 8/16 was impossible lol.

DonJuan is a world class talent with 20k+ hours experience playing against killers and probably 15k+ hours of solver work and other hard study that only a few players in the world are even capable of understanding.

To put things in perspective, DonJuan is a significant part of why I am moving to NL. I will just never be able to catch up to him. I will never be able to hold the Bonition lobby. I will always have him at my table sucking significant EV from me.

DonJuan possibly being able to sustain those numbers is pretty meaningless... non-zero chance he is the best in the world (non-cheaters of course) by a decent margin.

And tbh, I don't think he can sustain those numbers 5-6 handed online or playing long hours in the LA games. He would probably need significant time beating people down HUHU.

nice post sir

nice post sir

Yeah the sample size is just so tiny live. I’m running at 2 bb/hr over 600 hours over last 2.5 or so years but that’s nothing and it’s the same player pool that really helps

I havent play live close to 2 years. I was never able to adapt mentally like others regs and probably was slight loser in it. With saying that still think it 2/Bb per hour isnt impossible. There so much exploitation you can do with live read. Big blind can probably be close to 0 in win rate and Small bind slight +ev depending on btn and co open.

2 BB/hr might be sustainable in pools that don't have pros traveling regularly and/or moving there to join them. The Blackhawk games in Colorado used to be like this, but word got around and some pros were like "You mean I don't have to live in LA and be verbally abused at the tables every day?"

If someone is beating the Commerce games for 2 BB/hr over a few years of full-time play, they are likely god-tier at spotting tells and just generally paying super close attention. But the vast majority of pros get stoned and space out, play with their phones, or talk to their friends most of the session.

I didn’t get the impression that he was suggesting only someone of his ability could reach those numbers. I took it as he thought it possible for mere mortals as well.

Can you explain more about what you mean by adapting mentally?

4bb online is great but depends on what your paying in rake . i wanna say your speaking for 10/20+ crowd online. at the micros im paying 5bb/100 and still winning a nice clip. god bless if your taking 4bb/100.

definitely no where near what is possible but this is my last year. Do I look like I am lying?

Do we think there is any merit to being a “never chop” player in a 20/40 game with an auto-$8 drop?

8 drop!? Auto? Da ****

Yeah, $5 rake $3 PSJ at $40 pot I think so any flop in 20/40 is max drop.

Unlikely, unless you enjoy pissing people off.

What I like to do is sit to the left of someone who doesn't chop. You can likely overcome the rake in position.

NO. You are on quite the heater to even consider this.

I think there is some merit to chop even in a time game. Keeps the game friendly and keeps people from thinking you are cutthroat. But obviously that is player dependent and if I am in a non home casino I don't chop just so I don't have to worry about being angled.