Is stud hi/lo no qualifier ("Q") in any of the mixes?

No, everyone likes the dumb old super stud 8 and super razzdeucey, sometimes we play normal stud hi or razz, but never Q

That sucks. I guess only place to play Q is at the Dealer's Choice events at the WSOP then?

Is at least Archie spread in these mixes? If so, 66+ or 99+ qualifier for hi in Archie?

And yeah I never saw the appeal of super stud games. Seems you just have to play way tighter than in non-super stud games.

Another game I never see mentioned, which I've enjoyed on Kings, is double board limit Omaha hi. People tended to play pretty horribly and get in situations where they were getting freerolled a lot.

Haha! They will probably let me pick mix at any level with my play.

I'll stick 40/80 max. Thank you for the response, very helpful.

played some 30/60 HU LHE Live today. was fun.

Never fold!

My Christmas gift to the forum... DrElo's infamous euro trance rant with Dragon1893 doing the needling:



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lol nice find. elo had some legit rants.

WTF? Those YouTube vids are no longer available.

I found that out too Now I wont know how epic the beeps were.

he's not wrong

It looks like you ran around 14 BB/100 over 7kish hands. A variance calculator will tell you that you are a god. But in my experience, these sorts of things happen multiple times per career for everyone who plays over a million hands online... in both directions unfortunately. Live pros would kill themselves if they went on a 100k hand breakeven stretch. World class online players eat 100k breakeven stretches for breakfast, piss blood, and sweat piss.

Yeah but that probably it’s link to the high quality of players they play against right ?
Lately I’m running so bad vs donks I wonder if it’s me who have no idea how to play anymore
( I know the game online aren’t rigged but man does it feel like it sometimes).
I probably wouldn’t suffer 100k break even vs donks if I was a world class player .

How do you know it’s not rigged?

Well if all the biggest site like gg poker, pokerstars are rigged ….

I doubt it especially in limit .
There just not enough gain compare to NL for rigging the limit games .
Would a site risk it , for the weak limit action there is , for losing the big pie of NL ?

Fwiw it’s true I was a small consistent winner , just a very very bad stretch lately .
So I’m confident it ain’t rigged .

Anyway the point stand imo .
100k world class player break even stretch do not mean he suck but probably do u suck yourself when u play in weak soft games with donks

Small stakes games with astronomical rake can be impossible to beat. High stakes games with negligible rake and a whale at the table can be easy to beat. Just ask all of the horrible mid-high live players who have been making a living playing poker for over a decade.

I agree .
I’m just saying 100k stretch breakeven do not have the same meaning as a world class players vs other world lass players compare with medium stake player vs bad players .

I firmly believe if you are a medium stakes players vs donk and u break even after such a long stretch you probably aren’t as good as u think …
Imo It isn’t comparable to a world pass player breakeven stretch .

What you are saying makes absolutely no sense. Two things matter:

1) Your winrate
2) Your standard deviation

Suppose you play against a bunch of donks with a long-term winrate of 1.5 BB/100 and a standard deviation of 18 at .50/1 online.

Suppose I play in tough games with a long-term winrate of 1.5 BB/100 and a standard deviation of 18 at 50/100 online.

We would both be equally likely to have a 100k hand breakeven stretch.

True.
I figured a world class players vs other world class players should have a lower win rates then a mid stakes players vs donks (meaning much worst players).
Hence “true” winning players should have less 100k breakeven stretch as the stakes gets lower (since more weak players are present ).

But I know what you mean and I agree .

The mid-high pros secretly want to kill me when I say this, but mid-high LHE isn't and never has been any harder than small stakes LHE. The rake is way lower, the fish are still fish, and the regs aren't nearly as scary as they want you to believe.

This is why I was recommending Small Stakes Hold'em in the hand ranges thread.

The recommended pre-flop play around the blinds in that book is so awful that you would be punting an enormous amount of money if you followed it. The Stox book is much better simply because the blind play is much closer to reality. Pre-flop play around the blinds is a huge % of our winrate in LHE.

No one is trying to say they are a world class online player lol. I’m not even saying this streak is a testament to my skill. Certainly the people I’m playing against are not even remotely as skilled as even the average online player. It’s just a live streak unlike any I’ve personally ever heard of.

Regardless, variance is insane. This may be a bad way to look at this, but if I win 69% of my 20/40 sessions at this location, the chances of me even winning b2b sessions are roughly 47.6% (all other things presumed relatively equal). The chances I win five sessions in a row are 15.6%. I ended up winning 33 in a row.



I personally think that’s unfathomable in a live LHE cash game. You can belittle it if you want, but I’m going to continue to think it’s absurd.

I was not trying to belittle it. I was just trying to discourage you and everyone else from doing something silly with your money based on freakish variance in either direction. I have seen countless pros go on a crazy heater and move up in stakes while spending enormous amounts of money on various luxuries on the side. A few months later, they're selling their new car and taking ubers to and from the casino. Bad times.

Oh, I’ve been doing this way too long to think I suddenly figured something out. I’ve actually played zero hours above 20/40 since that streak started. Ironically, I’m the closest I’ve ever been to switching careers. Poker has awarded me amazing freedom but it’s gotten me absolutely nowhere financially and I’ve lost any passion I ever had for the game.