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Well been a long time .
I need a refresh …
How u cope with it ?

In less then a month online , I am in here a 200 BB downswing .
I’m rereading book again.
Rewatching even one basic video .
Im wondering how in the hell i have become such a bad player while ALL the other seem extremely good/lucky with trash hand and lagtard….
I went extremely low stakes .
I even went NL tourney and keep getting fack over 3 outs all in pf over 50% of the time .
In limit it’s non stop runner runner or 3-4 outs hitting half the time .
I’m becoming passif since I just know my hand won’t hold up .

ideas of rigged site and make me loose on purpose to level the field start creeping in my mind ( I know it’s BS but you know the feeling ) ….
The last time I felt like this was like 2-3 years ago but it’s getting ridiculous now .
Every one hitting non sense …

Fwiw my last hand today , I decide to play a Ko NL tourney for fun and relaxing (and maybe get lucky for once ..)
Near bubble territory.
UTG (13BB) goes all in
HERO (UTG+2) (32BB ) I go all in
MP(vilain) (31BB) goes all in ( saw him couple time go all in with no one calling, so I was confident .

Of course KK5T X (w.e card) hit
UTG AA
Hero QQ
Vilain AK

I’m thinking about quitting while ahead , so fed up ….
I just want to be in a good place mentally while playing and I just can’t anymore ….

Ps: I don’t care losing hands but I do care losing all my stack vs everyone nonstop without a break tho .

Pps: good luck at the table everyone ..

It really sucks sometimes

https://imgur.com/a/qyskfVp

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07-14-2024 , 08:25 PM

#528

BigBadBabar

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Originally Posted by Formerly ___1___

It really sucks sometimes

https://imgur.com/a/qyskfVp

dang that's a spicy one

i'm a big fan of the week off @montrealcorp

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07-16-2024 , 11:48 PM

#529

Montrealcorp

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dang that's a spicy one

i'm a big fan of the week off @montrealcorp

Yeah thx .
Seem a good idea .

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07-20-2024 , 12:08 AM

#530

DesertCat

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Games at Commerce are so good last week I lost two racks in my first down in the 20, get called to 40 and lost 3 more racks in first hour. Made adjustments and a few hours later was down another two racks, so bleeding was slowing. Eventually by 4 AM I won a rack back and took it as a psychological victory and went home before they could get me again.

But they still got me once more, wasn’t till the end of a two day drive before I realized they had given me COVID.

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07-20-2024 , 02:47 AM

#531

BigBadBabar

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

oof

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07-20-2024 , 03:03 AM

#532

checkraisdraw

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

standard commerce swings o7

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07-20-2024 , 11:11 PM

#533

DesertCat

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If Team USA can’t beat South Sudan how will they ever beat North Sudan?

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07-28-2024 , 11:41 AM

#534

DesertCat

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Played a pot with 59 small bets in it by end of flop betting. Ended up being $3000 total, in a 40/80 game. And no, not a kill pot, and I finished in second place with QT on T high flop vs AT & AT.

LHE isn’t dead yet.

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07-28-2024 , 08:58 PM

#535

BigBadBabar

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

wow

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07-28-2024 , 09:37 PM

#536

that_pope

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pics?

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07-29-2024 , 01:11 AM

#537

asmitty

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

Commerce 40. Asian woman opens, LAG who posted CO calls, I 3bet ATs, BB calls, others call. Flop 972 checked around. Turn T, opener bets CO raises I 3bet. BB and opener fold, CO 4bets, I call. River 2 CO bets, I call, CO insta-mucks.

Despite this hand, I somehow did not win money that day.

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07-29-2024 , 01:51 PM

#538

DesertCat

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Originally Posted by that_pope

pics?

No, but I’ll give a description. 8 handed. Straddle, raise, call, call, I call QThh, button 3 bet, SB somehow folds, BB 4 bet, straddler caps (83s in his range) all call. 35 bets to T63 flop one heart. I call a bet, then it comes back three bet with only one fold and I’m not good enough to fold vs this lineup, capped six ways. Turn was a low heart so I call one bet and so does everyone else. River bricked (low card) and it’s checked through.

Shockingly no one could make a straight out of all these low semi connected cards or even two pair so the two ATs held up.

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07-29-2024 , 07:09 PM

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checkraisdraw

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Pretty sure you have direct odds on the flop to draw to backdoor hearts without even considering your two pair outs

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07-29-2024 , 09:54 PM

#540

TheDarkKnight

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

I call a bet, then it comes back three bet with only one fold and I’m not good enough to fold vs this lineup, capped six ways.

How is the word “fold” something that could even cross our mind at this point? We are pretty much married to showing down here unless something insane happens.

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07-29-2024 , 11:24 PM

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DesertCat

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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight

How is the word “fold” something that could even cross our mind at this point? We are pretty much married to showing down here unless something insane happens.

Yea, I might be playing too tight post flop in multiway hands.

Edit: And too passive.

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08-03-2024 , 01:32 PM

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nonsimplesimon

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Ok here's a brag:

Spoiler:

On behalf of PokerGO, I am pleased to inform you that you have been selected to receive entry to play in the 2025 WSOP Main Event, currently expected to be in July 2025, at the Horseshoe Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada, as part of the PokerGO Shop WSOP 2025 Main Event Seat Giveaway. The prize package also includes an assortment of PokerGO merchandise (retail value of approx. $500), and [$1,500 provided in cash (or cash equivalent) to cover travel and lodging expenses, which would be provided after the first hand is played at the 2025 WSOP Main Event.]

Please reply to this email within the next 72 hours to confirm your desire to accept the prize and your eligibility to win (e.g., that you are at least 21 years old and reside in the US). After we have received your confirmation, we will also need to collect a declaration of eligibility and information for tax reporting purposes (these forms will be provided to you after we receive your confirmation). It’s important that you contact me within the next 72 hours, as we will need to disqualify you and move on to an alternate winner if we haven’t heard from you.

I understand that in today’s world with scams and phishing emails happening all the time, you may be hesitant to respond. I can also understand how this email might look like a scam. Hopefully you’re familiar with the WSOP Main Event and you’ve seen that PokerGO has been promoting this giveaway, and you can get some comfort from the fact that this email is coming from my PokerGO email address. If you’re looking for even more confirmation that this email is legitimate, we could have you call the official PokerGO customer support line (Monday through Friday from 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. CT, holidays excepted) which is listed in the Terms and Conditions posted on the PokerGO.com website at: https://www.pokergo.com/terms-and-conditions, and provide some verification that way. If you’re going to do that, let me know so I can connect with our customer support team and let them know you’ll be calling.

Bottom line, we want you to get comfortable that this is a “real” prize and that you “really” won it, because it’s an amazing prize. More info regarding the WSOP can be found at: https://www.wsop.com/, and the official rules for the giveaway can be found at: https://wsop-main-event-seat.pokergo.com/terms.

Congratulations again,

My son had been tugging my sleeve to watch the Main Event live since our youtube and tik tok algorithm sends all the pokergo feeds to our home pages - but being an online penny stakes grinder since having kids, I was like - meh - ok - so we turned it on and they announced the sweepstakes so I figured what the heck ...

I feel like Charlie in the Chocolate Factory... I am actually quite speechless - really humbled. I am really going to have to work on being patient since for the last 10 years I have been multitabling, zoning and blitzing for like 20 minutes at a time when I get a break is going to be very challenging... I probably need to work on chilling more than tourney theory...

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08-03-2024 , 01:46 PM

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chillrob

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Good luck! Let us know what the $500 of merchandise is, should be amusing.

Just noticed, a year in anticipation for you.

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08-03-2024 , 02:34 PM

#544

AlanBostick

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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon

Ok here's a brag:

Spoiler:

Go to jakacoaching.com. Go directly to jakacoaching.com. Do not pass "Go"; do not collect $200.

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08-03-2024 , 04:50 PM

#545

nonsimplesimon

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Good luck! Let us know what the $500 of merchandise is, should be amusing.

Just noticed, a year in anticipation for you.

Yeah ... the fellow who wrote the email is actually a commentator on PGO ... and I called and talked to him the next day ... so def legit.

What was totally weird is that I said a few weeks earlier around a campfire that the ME is actually a bucket list of mine...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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08-03-2024 , 04:56 PM

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nonsimplesimon

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Originally Posted by AlanBostick

Go to jakacoaching.com. Go directly to jakacoaching.com. Do not pass "Go"; do not collect $200.

Are you in his stable? We saw him pushing his site a lot when we were watching the series.

Interestingly enough I have been thinking of hiring a coach but this is a free roll and I would only take on someone who agreed to a percentage after I hit the money plus taxes. It would essentially be a stake I guess...

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08-04-2024 , 10:42 PM

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AlanBostick

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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon

So basically you would be asking someone to coach you in return for an 85% chance of getting nothing?

(I am not in Faraz's stable. I have subscribed to his training site from time to time and think very highly of it and of him.)

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08-04-2024 , 11:45 PM

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nonsimplesimon

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Originally Posted by AlanBostick

yeah 85 sounds about right - maybe higher with me lol - so if I have a 15 per chance of making the money WITH coaching then in theory I should spend 1500 plus tools. Honestly I was just going to be an old cheap bastard and continue to study with my trusty flopzilla and pt4 icm calcs lol since the pf ranges are free more-or-less on GTO WIZ...

What specifically do you recommend from his site? - he's got a lot of options. That 799 course looks cool.

EDIT: This course from pads also looks good as well.

btw are you still crushing the OAKs? Thanks again - really appreciate it.

Last edited by nonsimplesimon; 08-05-2024 at 12:09 AM.

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08-05-2024 , 01:20 AM

#549

BigBadBabar

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do you already play MTTs online? if not, i'd recommend starting to do so

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08-05-2024 , 01:02 PM

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DeathDonkey

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The thing about the main (and really all tournaments but its magnified in the main) is that your % chance to reach the money is not that relevant of a number, its your chance to actually win the tournament. People that are optimizing for trying to cash in general are less likely to be able to win.

Funny story from main this year, post money bubble quiet guy at our table has played 0 hands in 6 hours, quietly blinding out and stalling a little all the time. He's very clearly inexperienced with the chips. Finally he is quite short and decides to announce to us all "its been super fun playing with you guys all day, I won a bar league and all my friends back home have a piece of me here so sorry I have been slow I'm just gonna try to make a few more pay jumps". Nicest guy in the world and eventually got it in for like 4 bb and busted. The main is full of guys like this. He optimized for cashing, reached his goal, but has basically 0% chance to ever win, or even reach the final table, where all the $ is.

Anyway no point to this other than when playing a tournament you should usually try to win it, and if you are a halfway decent NLH player you should always always always play the main

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