pro tip 2: when you have the nuts, make sure to look desponded before you raise. this will make it look like you don't want to raise because you have a bad hand.

Not sure if serious (but too idiotic to be, so must be trolling, it can be hard to tell when you have 7 posts to your name)

I had someone b/3b/5b the flop yesterday, then check behind on the turn, showed down his missed flush draw. I wonder if he would've gone 7b or 9b...

This doesn't work anymore. I just start donking the turn on a blank.

Clearly yes. This line seems Bay101 to me.

I remember an 8/16 hand once

Opened red AA from utg, 1 caller on the button
Flop T 6 2 two clubs
b/2b/3b/4b/5b/6b/7b/c
Turn T 6 2 Q two clubs
b/c
River T 6 2 q 4 flush misses
b/ he folds and says "wow! you don't know how lucky you just got!" and shows KJ of clubs.

check the river

Probably a better line but I was drunk and still a beginner so... it seemed more fun to bet.

Biggest LHE game running at Commerce is 8/16?

Can you make a living playing 8-16 in LA?

Bike, commerce and Hawaiian Gardens raised the rake

Yes, but you would hate your life. Grinding those stakes in a casino waiting for AK+ sucks. Dealing with the other players sucks.

You can do it, but you should probably just go back and get a masters degree instead.

depends if andrew yang is president or not

Hard to imagine a better argument against UBI than that it would allow people to play 8/16 for a living.

How many people in the casino who claim to be pros (at anything) don't actually need much income from poker? Trust funds. Spouses with good jobs. Being retired. All seem like classic sources of being a poker pro.

[QUOTE=DougL;57064157]How many people in the casino who claim to be pros (at anything) don't actually need much income from poker? Trust funds. Spouses with good jobs. Being retired. All seem like classic sources of being a poker pro.[/QUOTE

Like 90% of the mid stakes regs I play with fall into this category...but I don’t think any of them would describe themselves as poker pros

A good chunk of the actual poker pros I know fall into the "don't need income from poker" category. If you've been around since the boom and were ever any good, you probably have enough to retire.

Being good at poker != being good at managing life money.

Do poker players ever retire?

Almost by definition, this is only true of people who were positioned to play in high stakes games and/or high buy-in tournaments during the boom. I would bet that the majority of players who were good (or at least good relative to the field at that time) were never in a position to capitalize on just how good the games were.

when I played at Commerce you sure as hell didnt need to wait for ak at 816. ofc this was 2011. but it was like 8 to the flop capped out. maybe it was a misnomer.

ya but many of us wasted it on drugs hookers houses wifes etc

by definition, if you were any good, you were positioned to play in high stakes games and or high buy-in tournaments during the boom

I don't think that's true at all. Unless you're on the older side and you were already doing well for yourself financially or you came from money, you didn't just show up in the poker boom with a bankroll sufficient to play in big games. And unless you come from immense privilege, you couldn't exactly afford to just take a shot. The opportunity was definitely there to grind out a bankroll, but that takes a lot of hours that not everybody had to dedicate to poker.

I agree that the opportunity was there for anybody that was reasonably good, if they were willing and able to play poker full time, to make a lot of money during the boom. But for various reasons a lot of people who would have had a big edge over the field were not putting in the hours.

There's a reason why most of the people who made a killing during the boom are young white men from relatively privileged backgrounds, and it's not because young white men from privileged backgrounds are inherently better at poker.

Lol, you can call it privilege if you want, but if you didn't put any hours in you didn't get good. And you didn't need more than $100 to build a roll if you had the aptitude and were willing to put the hours in. Plenty of 2+2ers started with a ~$50 deposit, built up a roll from there and were making $200/hr after 6-12 months.

I agree that if you started taking poker seriously in 2003 and were a good player, you should already be able to retire if you manage your money decently. The key word is "should". But too many good poker players are masters of lighting money on fire, irresponsible, immature, addicts, financially incompetent, etc. After all, look at all the celebrity multi-millionaires who go broke outside of poker.

And yes, it was quite possible to move from play money to 10/20 LHE online within a year without ever depositing if you had talent and studied back then. There were lots of sites where you could swap your Stars play money for cash.

Nowadays, the ladder to 40/80+ LHE is all screwed up.