Was it by a counterfeited two pair?

Missed flush draw. A bunch of limpers, I completed SB with T5s, bet the J42 flop with a flush draw. Only one caller, turn 2, river 4. I bet, he called…looked for a long time and then folded face down

Folded the chop?

No clue this guy was a “special type” and so I didn’t rattle the cage by asking.

Got visibly upset this weekend at the following situation.

Turn in 20/40 limit Big O hand. I had bet the flop (either as SB or BB first or second to act), and got 3 callers. On turn I bet again and while the next person is slowly putting out chips the next two players instantly fold, so she pauses, looks around, and raises.

I yell at them to protect the action and act in turn and the idiot next to me said 'Don't yell at me, he folded first'.

Plane fares have been out of control, but I guess United finally figured out that they can't fill all their seats while charging 2.5x the normal fare to Vegas, and they reduced them back to almost normal a week before takeoff, so now I'll be in Vegas next weekend for the 4th.

I'm meeting up with friends for some of the time, but hopefully will have some time at the tables. Is the 20/40 game at Bellagio running as normal now? I know in most years the post-WSOP summer is a dead time, but I'm hoping things are different this year.

Come take my money!

From my sporadic checking of bravo, seems like 40/80 is healthier than 20/40 at Bellagio. Seems like only 1 game of 20/40 going at most, while 40 usually has 2.

It's Omaha 8 so it's quite plausible the 2nd folder wasn't paying attention. I'm getting too old to be ageist though.

Anyway after a 3! you might be getting the same 3 bets of value with less competition, albeit worse odds because you have to put up 3 yourself. Irritating borderline angle shot but not much you can do unless the floor considers 2 folds to be "significant action" behind (which they shouldn't).

In her shoes I'd probably think a second and flat-call. In your shoes I'd probably yell too and then regret it 15 min later and wonder why I got so upset. An angry table isn't generally good for winrate.

Speaking of Bravo/Poker Atlas kibitzing, it looks like most of the mid-high LA LHE action is now at the Bike. Today (Tuesday midday) looks like three 20 and one each of 40, 60, and 200/400.

I wasn't tracking it during the pandemic. Was there some extrinsic driver moving action from the Commerce?

I'm just rediscovering poker for the first time in the pandemic era. Family commitments have relocated me to one of those places in the middle of the country where afaik there are no LHE games above 4/8 for 600 miles. (Interestingly there is a weekly 30/60 game though, go figure. I want so bad to take a shot at that.)

Also family matters are necessitating a bit of a bankroll rebuild....

So then, periodically I read a lot of recent Ed Miller and start wanting to get good at NLHE, or actually thinking I'm probably better at it than I claim to be. I don't really love the NL culture but the 1-2 games seem really good most places so here I go.

I can’t think of anywhere in the middle of the country that is more than 600 miles from the Twin Cities. Like Nebraska or Kansas?

I guess it depends on how strictly you define middle of the country. I'm temporarily (for another year) in Kentucky, a little over 600 miles from MSP. Nearby markets like Cincinnati, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Cherokee (NC), even for the most part Chicago, have your usual 1-2/1-3 and 2-5 NL games, an increasing number of PLO games, and occasionally a 4/8 LHE or mid-stakes limit Omaha 8 game or what-not.

Not that any of this is news to anyone here, I imagine....

I did forget about Philadelphia which is like 500 miles away, and of course AC not far beyond it. So yeah, I'm not precisely in the middle of the country.

I enjoy limit poker more but at this point, I figure getting better at NLHE will help me build up resources to travel to the games I like.

Yes. Commerce was not spreading 20/40+ and the Bike was. Now all the players are happy at the Bike… for now.

It might have something to do with Commerce being the Fourth Circle of Hell, whereas the Bike is in Bell Gardens.

Fair point. I've always found Bell Gardens to feel kind of rough too though (maybe that was the joke?). At any rate, the two towns' relative merits wouldn't have changed since two years ago when the Commerce had all that action, right?

There is limit on weekends in tunica... Its far but not Kentucky to Philly. :/

Bikes 10x nicer than commerce. Think Hawaiian gardens is nicest. The nutcracker type high limit inside high limit inside high limit. Kinda bad for randoms/shot takers as it's definitely awkward scoping tables out. But food/room super clean. Parking lot felt safer too.

Thanks, I wondered if that Tunica game was still going. Hadn't noticed it on Bravo but hadn't looked that hard. Still 20/40?

Looks like Ameristar St. Charles (near St. Louis) has a 20/40 half kill LHE game going tonight, which is 100 miles closer. I wonder how frequent that one is.

I would have likely done 50% less yelling and acting out, but I had actually just got called to the 20/40 LHE, so I got to make a big scene of disgust while racking up.

Nothing brings out your inner diva like live poker tilt!

Commerce isn’t so bad imo. Their dealers can be terrible, or they can be great. They’ve gotten new floors though that don’t take as much **** anymore, so that has been quite an improvement post-pandemic.

4 tables of 40/80 and 3 tables of 60/120 all night yesterday at the Bike. LHE isn't dead yet.

Still not thrilled about the mix game action from 100/200 to 200/400 in California/Nevada. Would like to see a lot more action. Vegas for instance has an 80 mix game at the Wynn and a 3/6 mix game at Aria or Bellagio but nothing in between. On the east coast it seems like mix game action city, every night 80/160, 150/300 and 300/600 mix games going at borgata.

sorry

The 25/50 LHE game at Hustler usually running...worth giving a to mention here

Thanks. Luckily I found that both games were about the same, either 1 or 2 tables depending on time of day. Waits were not too bad for either game.

Unfortunately it did seem to be true that both games have fewer tables now than 2 years ago. Both got short overnight, and at least one usually broke by 2am, consolidating players in the other. And the 9-18/10-20 LHE and 20-40 Omaha games are gone now.