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Old 10-13-2020, 08:47 AM   #326
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Playing at Bellagio is fine these days...
To each their own. The glass and 6 handed wasnt my favorite experience.
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Old 10-14-2020, 05:42 AM   #327
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It looks to me like outdoor gaming has at least temporarily altered the balance in the "Bike vs. Commerce Mid-high LHE Turf War". Commerce has been running a single table of 60/120 the past few days with no 20/40-40/80. They were running 2 tables at first and even got 200/400 going last Wednesday, but it's like they just gave up this past weekend and decided to use the space for 4/8-8/16. The Bike has been getting 4 tables of 20/40 and one table of 40/80 pretty consistently. I imagine the Gardens may be outperforming Commerce in mid-high LHE as well. On twitter, The Bike's setup seems reasonably nice while the Commerce setup looks kinda like a flea market in a podunk town. The outdoor Commerce twitter pics alone make me imagine ear splitting construction noise, noxious highway fumes, and sawdust blowing into my eyeballs. The dude running their twitter is like "It's hard to see how awesome it is from these angles! You have to be here to understand." Really, bro? You couldn't be bothered to walks yourself to a slightly more flattering angle before you snapped and uploaded your pics?

Overall, covid seems to just be awful for live mid-high LHE. With limited space, why start a shorthanded mid-high LHE table that may or may not bear fruit when 4/8 LHE or 1/2-2/5 NL is guaranteed to run strong all night? And to make matters worse, the LA casinos seem much more interested in their Baccarat and Blackjack customers.

Only the Bellagio seems to be prioritizing its mid-high LHE customers. But they are def at an advantage since the local government is giving the Vegas casinos so much more room to do whatever the heck they want.

I worry that we are approaching some sort of live poker apocalypse where everything becomes 1/2-2/5 NL with the occasional 4/8 LHE thrown in. I feel like the solution is for mid-high LHE to pay significantly more rake than lower stakes games, but I might get murdered for even bringing that one up.

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Old 10-14-2020, 10:15 AM   #328
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The casinos are just trying to hedge losses until the vaccination. Everything about the pandemic has crushed their business model. At least in SoCal you guys can play outside all winter.
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Old 10-14-2020, 11:33 AM   #329
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Overall, covid seems to just be awful for live mid-high LHE.
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I feel like the solution is for mid-high LHE to pay significantly more rake than lower stakes games, but I might get murdered for even bringing that one up.
A funny thing has happened at Canterbury. The 20/40 is a $6 raked game (4+2) that hits the cap nearly every hand and we average like 45 hands/hr. We're 6-max, so that's $45 per person per hour. 40/80 is $20/hr time, so it's less than half the cost.

We're now running 40/80lhe every day, and sometimes multiple tables because a few regs (and one in particular) have been so vocal about saving money on rake.

In Minnesota, Covid is pushing people to live mid-high LHE.
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Old 10-14-2020, 11:05 PM   #330
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Wow... The Bike just ninja'd the Commerce 60/120 game right after I made that post. I do hope Commerce makes a quick comeback. Competition and multiple options are good things.
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:25 AM   #331
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Borgata and probably parx opening soon. Looks like a lot of good timing by these casinos. Let plan and sit on our ass during summer and wait for other competition to do something. If it wasn’t profitable to open why all the sudden do it when Covid will increase. Anyway with that being said I am coming to play next weekend.
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Old 10-17-2020, 12:17 PM   #332
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A funny thing has happened at Canterbury. The 20/40 is a $6 raked game (4+2) that hits the cap nearly every hand and we average like 45 hands/hr. We're 6-max, so that's $45 per person per hour. 40/80 is $20/hr time, so it's less than half the cost.

We're now running 40/80lhe every day, and sometimes multiple tables because a few regs (and one in particular) have been so vocal about saving money on rake.

In Minnesota, Covid is pushing people to live mid-high LHE.
This checks out. 20/40 rake is egregious as compared to making it a time game. But unless we decide to move the game elsewhere, they arenít going to change it. I canít imagine the 40 will sustain long term, but it will be fun while it lasts. I think that reg just needs to be careful not to lobby too hard - two people already told me they didnít like converting to 40 this week
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Old 10-18-2020, 06:58 PM   #333
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This checks out. 20/40 rake is egregious as compared to making it a time game. But unless we decide to move the game elsewhere, they arenít going to change it. I canít imagine the 40 will sustain long term, but it will be fun while it lasts. I think that reg just needs to be careful not to lobby too hard - two people already told me they didnít like converting to 40 this week
Yeah, the 40 is already dying down. It might have just been a weird couple of weeks.

I wonder if the 20/40 actually re-locates to aces; If they'll do $8/30min 7-max (as has been repeatedly rumored), we might as well. Alternately, the daytime 20 at Canterbury w/o regs might become the best LHE game in the country even with the egregious rake.
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Old 10-18-2020, 11:20 PM   #334
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Every game that runs at canta is already the best in the country for that stake, the fact that no 20 regs move to the mix reiterates the fact that its lolz soft
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Old Yesterday, 09:00 AM   #335
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Are GTO preflop charts for 6-max LHE available publicly or do I need to buy some software for them? I goggled for it and all I could find were NL charts.

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solveoptimized has limit 6-max but in monker format so you may have to buy software anyway?
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