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Old 02-07-2019, 05:56 PM   #76
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What mix game show are you talking about? I would have loved to see that.
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Old 02-07-2019, 09:32 PM   #77
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Enjoyed seeing you on the show.
Did Eli use to come out for the Gardens game or was your previous play with him at the Bellagio?
We had played together a couple times years ago but weren't friendly until we played together at Gardens where we played together almost daily for a long time.

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What mix game show are you talking about? I would have loved to see that.
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Old 02-07-2019, 09:38 PM   #78
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We had played together a couple times years ago but weren't friendly until we played together at Gardens where we played together almost daily for a long time.







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Was great seeing you so upbeat and enjoying yourself.
On the Pods you sound so down talking NL
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Old 02-08-2019, 03:24 AM   #79
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I played 1000/2000 on pokergo today and got pretty drunk if anyone feels like watching. I folded every hand
Holy ****! Purple + Yellow chip land.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:05 AM   #80
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Just feel bad to see a guy getting lit up online when he's been nothing but a gentleman to me and everyone I've seen him interact with in the time I've known him. I'm not familiar with the details of his financial agreements with other individuals and don't want to be. None of my business.
With you, here. I know some people who know Eli socially, and every story is about him being a nice guy. So the basic premise of this stuff is that a livepro owes some people money? OK, that seems standard. Guessing the reality is more complex, because he probably is owed debts. That's really not any of my business. At no point did there seem to be anything remotely like outright scamming.

It is that in a biography, a dude leaves out some embarrassing stuff or claims to have paid off debts he hasn't? Makes himself look good? Doubt that most autobiographies are rigorously fact checked. In the world of HS poker, I'm not sure that even the worst version of what people said in that thread (disclaimer: didn't read all of it), would raise much of an eyebrow.

I'm looking forward to the book, because I'm expecting a bunch of stories about a world that most of us don't know well. The internet outrage also seems standard, but no reason that I've seen to really care. I feel bad for Mason and other people involved in the project, because I'm sure they all worked hard to put out interesting stories. Then, the internet morality police decided that this particular guy needed to be hounded back on to the straight and narrow. Like somehow the fun tales of a degenerate gambler wouldn't involve some amount of degeneracy at some point?
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:44 PM   #81
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The people who are the friendliest and the most outgoing are also the ones who can borrow the largest amount of money before being outed. Especially when they are perceived as a rich business owner.
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:00 PM   #82
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I feel bad for Mason and other people involved in the project, because I'm sure they all worked hard to put out interesting stories.
IDGAF about Elezra, his creditors, or 2p2 accounts that may or may not be sockpuppets.

But it warms the cockles of my heart to see Mason publishing something outside of his wheelhouse and getting burned for it. It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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Old 02-10-2019, 06:35 PM   #83
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The people who are the friendliest and the most outgoing are also the ones who can borrow the largest amount of money before being outed. Especially when they are perceived as a rich business owner.
+10000000000

also, very often chip loans are made with the understanding that it keeps a good poker game going. that feels kinda meh.
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:39 PM   #84
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It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
I don't know Mason, personally. I've played a few hours of poker with him, but neither one of us is the life of the party. Business-wise, I have a ton of respect for him. AaronW wrote an article for the 2+2 magazine a few years ago. I'm certain that a ton of places would have tried the "do this free for exposure" route. 2+2 paid for the article. The rights went back to Aaron after a reasonable amount of time (3-6 months?), and I believe he totally owns the rights to that work, including selling it in a book if he were able to do so. I don't think Mason had to cut that fair a deal for authors for the magazine.

I do business with a lot of people, and mostly they just take rights to stuff because they can. Very few people cut business deals that are good for both sides -- it is fun to ask clients if they'd sign my side of the IP agreement or my side of the NDA. They won't, because the deals are unfair.

I know LHE posters have had personal disagreements with him, but everything I've heard related to business has been super good/ethical. I'm sure that the editor of the book, any production people, and any ad people involved in no way deserved in internet ****storm. Publishing stuff is hard, and I feel for everyone involved.

Could also be missing stuff and wrong about everything. Having a 13 year old at home, wrong about everything is just a standard state of being.
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very often chip loans are made with the understanding that it keeps a good poker game going. that feels kinda meh.
This, too. Like if the "loans" are intended to keep a fish in the game so he'll lose more...
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:46 PM   #85
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Does anyone here have experience with making trips to Denver to play the $30/$60 game at Ameristar? I played it once back in 2016 and thought the game was amazing. I saw four games going one night a short while ago. Seems like a pretty good drop zone for a weekend or so.

However, whatís the best place to stay and best way to travel? I just simmed an Uber from the airport to Ameristar and it was a $70+ ride.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:25 PM   #86
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Ameristar is the best place to stay. Rent a car.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:27 PM   #87
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Renting a car seems a bit silly if I only need it to drive back and forth to the airport, no?
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Old 02-13-2019, 05:28 PM   #88
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Seems like you should do something like this then: http://www.casinoshuttle.com/schedul...enver-east.asp
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:15 PM   #89
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"You need to understand that everything you do at a poker table conveys information."
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Does anyone here have experience with making trips to Denver to play the $30/$60 game at Ameristar? I played it once back in 2016 and thought the game was amazing. I saw four games going one night a short while ago. Seems like a pretty good drop zone for a weekend or so.

However, whatís the best place to stay and best way to travel? I just simmed an Uber from the airport to Ameristar and it was a $70+ ride.
3-5 games every Friday and Saturday nights, 50/100 also runs sometimes but not so much lately.

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Ameristar is the best place to stay. Rent a car.
Ameristar is the nicest place to stay in town, there is a poker rate but I don't know what it is. Not exactly inexpensive but choices are limited until Monarch opens their hotel later this year. Convenience factor is high since the game is then just an elevator ride away.

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Seems like you should do something like this then: http://www.casinoshuttle.com/schedul...enver-east.asp
You could save a few bucks on a rental car by taking some shuttle from downtown, but you'd have to figure out the logistics and Uber to the pickup point or maybe take the train from DIA. And while you might be able to get an Uber up to BH, I seriously doubt you'll find one to pick you up and take you to the airport, it's about an hour between the two locations. I'd try to save one big bet in a pot where you're almost certainly beat and just use that to pay for the rental car.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:09 AM   #91
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Great info. Debating between LA again, Vegas for the Pac-12, or Denver. Alaska has super cheap flights next month.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:12 PM   #92
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If it is a choice between LA and anywhere else for poker, why would you pick anywhere else? (Setting aside special events like the WSOP)
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:05 PM   #93
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The one time I played at Ameristar, the 30/60 game played like a 4/8 game. It was insanely soft.

Plus, itís nice to go different places.
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:33 PM   #94
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The one time I played at Ameristar, the 30/60 game played like a 4/8 game. It was insanely soft.
4/8 game where it is $200 to see a flop, when the kill is on.
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Hi Doug,

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It is that in a biography, a dude leaves out some embarrassing stuff or claims to have paid off debts he hasn't? Makes himself look good? Doubt that most autobiographies are rigorously fact checked. In the world of HS poker, I'm not sure that even the worst version of what people said in that thread (disclaimer: didn't read all of it), would raise much of an eyebrow.
I don't have an opinion on the Eli story, but if anyone enjoys semi factual biographies, I recommend Mark Twain's Joan of Arc.
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:12 PM   #96
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4/8 game where it is $200 to see a flop, when the kill is on.

Haha. Thatís the beauty of it! I could be wrong though. My sample size is about as small as it gets... but still... when you can fill up to four tables, I expect the games to be pretty good on average.
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Haha. Thatís the beauty of it! I could be wrong though. My sample size is about as small as it gets... but still... when you can fill up to four tables, I expect the games to be pretty good on average.
A person who had trouble with relentless aggression could have issues in the game. Lack of action is rarely a problem. The game plays way bigger than the old Bellagio 30/60 game, even when the kill is off.
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:31 PM   #98
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A person who had trouble with relentless aggression could have issues in the game. Lack of action is rarely a problem. The game plays way bigger than the old Bellagio 30/60 game, even when the kill is off.
My regular 20/40 game starts out fine and then 6 hours in it is regularly (every hand) 3 or 4 bet pre with 5-8 players to the flop. It took me a while to adjust but now I love it. Just need to bring more money.
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My regular 20/40 game starts out fine and then 6 hours in it is regularly (every hand) 3 or 4 bet pre with 5-8 players to the flop. It took me a while to adjust but now I love it. Just need to bring more money.
Playing in these games over the years (even when the stakes were lower) taught me a lot about relentless aggression. I probably don't respect a Vegas regular's 3 and 4 bet enough, because once my read is that someone has some gamble in them...

One of the biggest mistakes in those wild games is to put in money where you aren't committed. It is amazing to see UTG +1 call a flop bet from the BB with 5 players behind and then fold to a cap in a game where 70% of the time the flop will cap. How could you call that, intending to fold to a raise when the fact that you called induces the raise? You'd see this from the trying to play good weaker regs and the tourists. Put in 5 small bets preflop and flop, and then fold enough equity to call the flop bet? That has to be lighting money on fire. Invariably, that guy would complain about the crazies, moan about his bad luck, and predict that everyone else at the table would soon be busto.
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Hey, no content in the low/no content thread!

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