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Old 06-05-2019, 10:58 AM   #226
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More rake is better?
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:01 AM   #227
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More rake is better?
I would think hourly rake in limit games is at least as high as NL if not higher. More medium sized pots hitting rake cap while NL has many flops folded out.
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:12 AM   #228
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I'm pretty sure they make more from 2/5 NL.
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:56 AM   #229
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I'm pretty sure they make more from 2/5 NL.
Arenít there more hands an hour at limit?
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Old 06-05-2019, 12:09 PM   #230
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Arenít there more hands an hour at limit?
Most of the limit games are time games. I assume without any personal knowledge that the NL games are dropped per hand.
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Old 06-05-2019, 01:14 PM   #231
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An 8/16 rake game has to make at least double if not triple a 2/5 NL raked game.

Speed of play and % of pots that see a flop and hit the max rake per hour is what drives this.
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Old 06-05-2019, 03:43 PM   #232
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I'm pretty sure they make more from 2/5 NL.
Yeah, and Canterbury makes way more at 8/16 and 20/40 than at 40/80 mix. But they will always always start the highest limit games first.
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Old 06-05-2019, 04:06 PM   #233
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:30 PM   #234
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Check out the 100% vpip over on latb
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:25 PM   #235
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Can someone please explain how mlife works for poker players?

The app says I have 0 points and 0 express comps, but I've already played many hours of poker this week. Someone mentioned last night that we get $2/hr.

How can I see my comps, what can I use them for, how/where can I use them?
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Old 06-07-2019, 12:58 AM   #236
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Can someone please explain how mlife works for poker players?

The app says I have 0 points and 0 express comps, but I've already played many hours of poker this week. Someone mentioned last night that we get $2/hr.

How can I see my comps, what can I use them for, how/where can I use them?
Poker earned comps won't show as MLife points. If you walk past the Bellagio poker cage into the hallway on its left, they will print you a voucher for your poker comps you can use at on-site restaurants, such as the buffet or Noodles.

Fairly certain you can also use your poker comps to order food at the table.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:25 AM   #237
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Poker earned comps won't show as MLife points. If you walk past the Bellagio poker cage into the hallway on its left, they will print you a voucher for your poker comps you can use at on-site restaurants, such as the buffet or Noodles.

Fairly certain you can also use your poker comps to order food at the table.
You can.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:45 AM   #238
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Can the poker comps at the Bellagio be used to cover the daily room fees too?
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:48 AM   #239
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Can the poker comps at the Bellagio be used to cover the daily room fees too?
No, food only and only at a few restaurants.
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:17 AM   #240
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Get the duck off the Asian menu - very good and reasonably priced. Easy to eat at the table - order with no bones tho
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Old 06-07-2019, 05:02 PM   #241
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If you have AMEX platinum book Bellagio through their Fine Hotel and Resorts portal. You'll get late check out plus a non trivial amount in food and beverage comps. Think it's ~$150.

Bellagio Cafe had a good $35 prefixed menu option but they remodeled it earlier this year into Sadelle's. Don't bother going there unless you want very over priced fried chicken. Cafe Gelato has reasonably priced sandwiches and breakfast food. IMO > Snacks but a longer walk from Poker Room.

Noodles last order is 1:30am and most options are pretty good. Room service stuff actually decent ignoring price. You're not getting away from Daily Fees unless you get a host to comp it off.
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Old 06-07-2019, 05:06 PM   #242
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If I were a local the best deal is probably free parking once you get to a certain tier. The food comps / express comps don't matter much because all things are tourist prices within the casino.
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Old 06-07-2019, 05:31 PM   #243
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Got it - thanks for the help guys. Hope to see you all there July 3rd through the 10th.
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Old 06-17-2019, 02:28 PM   #244
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Another similarity is that profit is made off of people incorrectly applying math.

You don’t have to be precise but running your equity against 1 player when there’ll be at least 2 and possibly as many as 5 other players in the pot isn’t a small issue.
Don’t think you understand that quote. “It is better to be roughly right than precisely wrong.” By John Maynard Keynes and often repeat by Warren Buffett. You should feel very happy that there are people behind you willing to cold call and sometime cap w the nut. Maybe next time you should shout out behind you if people are going to cap so you can make accurate decision at the table. But since you think there people like me that can’t do math I will be free this August to fly to Toronto. Heard you guys play up to 50/100. Let me know I am down for some head up action or if you want ask your buddy we can do 3 handed and you can sit on my immediate left.

Actually you guys have bodog let me know if you want to have some fun on there. Or Acr/kings cool to. I will pay your rake if you willing to do 10k hands prop bet.
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:34 AM   #245
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it has nothing to do with whether you CAN "do" math. you can calculate your equity to include ranges likely to call 2 more weighted by the probability of it happening just as well as anyone, but you aren't. You know it won't be anything close to 37%. so why are you even arguing?

if you're actually serious about heads up action, suggest some people you'd be comfortable with as an escrow and if I agree to one, you can send them 5k for the rake you're claiming you'll spot. it's been a while since I've grinded so ill need time prepare and I'm not going to waste my time unless you're serious.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:14 AM   #246
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Don’t think you can do math 10k hands head up is anywhere near 5k in rake. But I am def down let me know who to escrow. I prefer playing on bodog, acr second and kings third.

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Old 06-19-2019, 02:53 PM   #247
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I wouldnt do this online considering the prevalence of heads up limit gto solvers over the past several years.

Niagara is the best place to do it nearby and if anything they probably charge $2 a hand that sees a flop, which is going to be 90%+ of hands, which means if they would spread it (and i doubt they'd allow restricting other players form joining) you'd be paying me something in the ballpark of $9-10k for the luxury of saving face in an internet argument.

But we both know this is never happening. Your posting history suggest you were a small stakes grinder who now plays 40/80 live when the games are soft, and we're supposed to believe you're going to fly to another country to play heads up against someone who played mid stakes online limit professionally, even spotting them the rake - all because they pointed out that you said something stupid on an internet forum?

How about you just tell me if you're ever in niagara, and we can try and start a 50/100 table. You don't even have to spot me the rake.
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Old 06-19-2019, 03:33 PM   #248
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who the F.cuk are you. lol look like you haven't search enough in this forum but thanks for letting me brag.





I think you pretty cute that you happen to buy pio solver and start spiting out common knowledge w solver or whatever but I have a three year head start on you. Only a handful of people I would refuse head up online. And I battle anyone on bodog. let me know

p.s I really try to calm down my online persona since I am not like this at live at all. But for some reason I get pretty anger when people like you think you can take away my hard work the past few years.

Also I only play live on tuesday since it my "offday" and I like to enjoy a little bit of relaxing while grinding live. It certainly a lot more fun than waiting for games at night and grinding late.

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Old 06-19-2019, 03:59 PM   #249
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I wouldnt do this online considering the prevalence of heads up limit gto solvers over the past several years.

Niagara is the best place to do it nearby and if anything they probably charge $2 a hand that sees a flop, which is going to be 90%+ of hands, which means if they would spread it (and i doubt they'd allow restricting other players form joining) you'd be paying me something in the ballpark of $9-10k for the luxury of saving face in an internet argument.

But we both know this is never happening. Your posting history suggest you were a small stakes grinder who now plays 40/80 live when the games are soft, and we're supposed to believe you're going to fly to another country to play heads up against someone who played mid stakes online limit professionally, even spotting them the rake - all because they pointed out that you said something stupid on an internet forum?

How about you just tell me if you're ever in niagara, and we can try and start a 50/100 table. You don't even have to spot me the rake.
Just want to double post and LOL in real life. Can we please get a head up matching going online. Posts the people you want to want escrow. I get very lonely waiting game or regs hnr on bodog. we can do ACR if you don't want the annon. feature heard they have 50 cent cap at head up.
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Old 06-19-2019, 05:27 PM   #250
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You flying out was your idea, not mine. I told you why i'm not willing to play heads up limit online. Your results are impressive - the point you made is still stupid, which is why you're trying to puff out your chest instead of actually defending the point.

Here's a life lesson for you - if you're actually trying to get action from someone, you probably shouldn't provide concrete evidence why it would be a bad idea. A bit of a strategic blunder I'd say.

And yet i'll still start a 50/100 game with you if you're in town, and you don't even have to front me the rake.

"I think you pretty cute that you happen to buy pio solver and start spiting out common knowledge w solver or whatever but I have a three year head start on you. Only a handful of people I would refuse head up online. "

I've never used pio or any solver. The fact that i know these things are actually being used these days is why i wouldn't do it online.

Maybe you can use pio to solve the hand and figure out what your actual equity here should be though. The stupid thing is we agree it's not a fold. It's just you're for some reason being too stubborn to admit that using an estimate of 37% for 4 into 40 is a stupid way of looking at it - given your assigned range to the sb, it should probably be in the ballpark of 20% for 4 into 50.

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