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2018 NC/LC THREAD - are we ever going to get a title? 2018 NC/LC THREAD - are we ever going to get a title?

04-15-2018 , 09:53 PM
Just the guy on my direct left, picked him off 3 times, agro reg who couldn't resist if I checked to him twice. Of the obvious regs he was was the only one with bet sizing worse than me
04-16-2018 , 05:30 PM
It's more thrilling bluffing a guy who never folds obv!
04-18-2018 , 10:06 AM
anyone try lhe in any of the u.s states https://www.uspoker.com/blog/nv-nj-d...e-poker/22762/ ? Any idea on how high the stake are?
04-18-2018 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
anyone try lhe in any of the u.s states https://www.uspoker.com/blog/nv-nj-d...e-poker/22762/ ? Any idea on how high the stake are?
Donjuan:

Would PM BigBadBabar (mod here and OP who created this thread).

Think he has or had a website with info on US poker websites with solid bonuses or rakeback.
04-18-2018 , 01:18 PM
Anyone in Vegas next week? I'll be playing at Bellagio and MGM (staying there for a conference).

Does the 20 and 40 games go during the week at Bellagio?
04-18-2018 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BenjaminLinus
Anyone in Vegas next week? I'll be playing at Bellagio and MGM (staying there for a conference).

Does the 20 and 40 games go during the week at Bellagio?
Wont be in Vegas but 20/40 runs daily @Bellagio unless it died.

Can always check via Bravo app on your smart phone
04-18-2018 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by maka2184
Wont be in Vegas but 20/40 runs daily @Bellagio unless it died.

Can always check via Bravo app on your smart phone
To add to this 4-5 handed 20/40 game I played in Bellagio with 1 table 20/40 around 4am -6am being last one was probably softest and easiest 20/40 gsme I've ever played in (I played from 6pm.- 6am if my memory is accurate).

May have been an outlier luckbox table thing but was maybe like 2-3 years ago. PM Ninawilliams and will probably explain how soft that game is.
04-18-2018 , 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenjaminLinus
Anyone in Vegas next week? I'll be playing at Bellagio and MGM (staying there for a conference).

Does the 20 and 40 games go during the week at Bellagio?
I was there a week ago. 20/40 game seems to run 24/7, usually 2 tables during prime hours. 40/80 game is sporadic I think.

Right now for example looking at Bravo there is a table of 20/40 going with 3 on the wait list. Only 2 on wait list for 40/80 with zero tables.

Last edited by WPNdonk; 04-18-2018 at 04:13 PM.
04-18-2018 , 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJuan
anyone try lhe in any of the u.s states https://www.uspoker.com/blog/nv-nj-d...e-poker/22762/ ? Any idea on how high the stake are?
Quote:
Originally Posted by maka2184
Donjuan:

Would PM BigBadBabar (mod here and OP who created this thread).

Think he has or had a website with info on US poker websites with solid bonuses or rakeback.
that article says the new site (sharing the combined player pools of nv nj and de) doesn't start until may 1 - if that info is wrong, please let us know

i've never covered the one-state-only poker networks but maybe i'll put this new three-state network up on my site!

current usa-facing networks that have non-negligible limit holdem:

1) ignition aka bovada (formerly bodog) - up to 30/60
2) americas cardroom/black chip poker/true poker (all skins on the winning poker network) - up to 30/60

interesting, i've heard that a newer site, global poker, is getting some smaller-stakes action, with 10/20 as their current highest stake

the other usa-facing public sites/networks (betonline, carbon, intertops, swcpoker) don't have lhe action to speak of

any info that you guys have about these sites or any others is most welcome!

i suppose we could make this into a sticky if you guys think there's any interest.
04-18-2018 , 05:15 PM
What percentage of hands (roughly) should we be defending the BB with from a button open?

Assuming a opponent who plays fine and opens a fairly standard range.

Just want to know that I'm not too out of line with what I'm doing.
04-18-2018 , 07:49 PM
Cool thanks BBB. I guess I will wait till May 1 to find out. Hopefully with three state working together bring liquidity.

Defend in BB vs Btn
04-18-2018 , 07:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WPNdonk
What percentage of hands (roughly) should we be defending the BB with from a button open?

Assuming a opponent who plays fine and opens a fairly standard range.

Just want to know that I'm not too out of line with what I'm doing.
it depends, but certainly 60%+ (or a fair bit more) seems a safe guideline
04-18-2018 , 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJuan
Cool thanks BBB. I guess I will wait till May 1 to find out. Hopefully with three state working together bring liquidity.

Defend in BB vs Btn
92%???

I'm a liberal defense but that's WAY too wide. This looks closer to BB defending against SB open.
04-18-2018 , 08:23 PM
Honestly surprised DonJuan folds anything. Guessing in a live game, he pretends to look and pushes chips in the middle. Hard to get one of the internet genius bunch to fold.
04-18-2018 , 08:46 PM
this would be bb defend sb
04-18-2018 , 10:30 PM
DonJuan how wide do you open the button?

How wide do you defend vs an UTG open 9-handed? 6-handed?
04-18-2018 , 11:46 PM
Wow. Count me as surprised that 52o and 94o are defends against a BTN open (in a ring game when SB folds)
04-19-2018 , 01:35 AM




There might be tools to solve these games but so far there probably only a hand full of guys that doing it right and putting in the work off the table. So far this year I put in about 70 hours of studying I probably need another 130 hours to get good at 3way spot.
04-19-2018 , 01:41 AM
Maybe I will go Jdalla route and do a lhe video package once all the 2+2 regs stop giving me action. Actually lists of people I won't play head up/3way Yoghii/KPR(his friend that share infor.)/Azrarn/Qvidde and maybe a few other eastern euro regs. Apperantly spidey think that I would need 100k to play him at 50/100 cause you know I "might" lose that much.
04-19-2018 , 02:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJuan
Cool thanks BBB. I guess I will wait till May 1 to find out. Hopefully with three state working together bring liquidity.

Defend in BB vs Btn
Appreciate the response and excellent graph.

(Thank you as well BigBadBabar)
04-20-2018 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
Maybe I will go Jdalla route and do a lhe video package once all the 2+2 regs stop giving me action. Actually lists of people I won't play head up/3way Yoghii/KPR(his friend that share infor.)/Azrarn/Qvidde and maybe a few other eastern euro regs. Apperantly spidey think that I would need 100k to play him at 50/100 cause you know I "might" lose that much.
Wanted to follow up after the few hands we played Sunday on ACR. I’m likely willing to play a bit more, but need to iron some stuff out. Pretty sure you have an advantage.
04-20-2018 , 11:10 AM
To DonJuan's point, how many of us have been considered total monkeys with some of our ranges as well? Maybe us going "OMG" at a guy who defends 95o against a BTN open is the equivalent to the old school guys who can't believe that these crazy guys open J9s in the HJ.
04-20-2018 , 04:08 PM
Another thing to add is if you don’t play perfectly postflop (none of us do) the junkiest hands are going to suffer the most. And even if you do they profit the least so a decent chunk of those hands are simply not a big deal either way. And with rake considerations even more should be folded.
04-20-2018 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
Another thing to add is if you don’t play perfectly postflop (none of us do) the junkiest hands are going to suffer the most. And even if you do they profit the least so a decent chunk of those hands are simply not a big deal either way. And with rake considerations even more should be folded.
Thanks DeathDonkey.

I've been too busy to play within last year but I definitely do play closer to Nit TAG leak level in terms of BB vs BTN open in lieu of Don Juan expert level wide BB call range.

Unrelated but when I am BB and am able to play SB vs BB and I am BB, I defend quite wide although that situation is quite rare live of getting a 3 handed or 4 handed game going where I play 20/40 and can play SB vs BB.
04-20-2018 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
Another thing to add is if you don’t play perfectly postflop (none of us do) the junkiest hands are going to suffer the most. And even if you do they profit the least so a decent chunk of those hands are simply not a big deal either way. And with rake considerations even more should be folded.
that pessimistic talk! How about since most people don't play postflop perfect(none of us do) the junkiest hands aren't going to suffer it expected EV and we can defend GTO and with sb ante it should be play.

      
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