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12-10-2018 , 04:25 AM
I made this account just in the .01% chance there was another poker boom and I ever played big again and didn't want to give someone the chance to steal the screen name.

I don't really mind my screen name being my name. Not really into talking negatively about people anymore, won't make my life any better. I still do occasionally and wish I didn't, but I don't know anyone that doesn't do it once in a while. My volume since WSOP has been like 90% private games, it's no mystery that I am a professional poker player, people just enjoy playing with me because I gamble, I am social and I like to party. And in the event I ever get a real job, I will have to find a way to sell my career as a poker player as a reason they should employ me anyway. If <200 posts in >5 years somehow comes back to bite me in the ass, then oops.

I tried to get access to the HM account but I don't know the password and iirc it is tied to an email address that I no longer have access to. I think BBB said I had to talk to Mat Sklansky or someone to get it back which I have been too lazy to do. I just wanted to save a few PMs I had in there including one I sent Jesse Martin a million years ago regarding 2-7 Razz. I was curious how fishy my approach to that and other games was in ~2010 compared to now since my approach to all one winner games is entirely different post 2014ish and especially post 2016/piosolver than it was in the old days.

My old posts are honestly difficult to read. I remembered my writing style was deliberately terrible but wow it is really something. Almost like another language. And the way I played and specifically tried to win hands in mind boggling ways reminds me of almost every hand Mike L has texted me the past year or so. It's almost like he actually went through my posts and found some insane spews I would make that somehow worked and just texts me one every few months as a joke and pretends he was the one that played it.

Here's an especially bad one: http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...e#Post13103727

From a different thread. Also me.

"so here is the hand i will contribute instead. 10/10 nl 2k buyin about 2k deep. i went to this game after the 75 broke bc it looked good and i wasnt tired enough to quit playing. 3 handed villain is a fish but thinking just enough. he basically calls lots pf and folds lots postflop. i straddle button, tight guy 3bets to 60 in sb like he has done past 3 hands after folding like 10 straight times before that. fish calls the 60, i raise to 200 straight with 63o. sb folds, fish calls.

flop QJ5r
he checks i bet i think like 240, he c/r to 600, i shove after thinking about 3 seconds. he deliberates and folds, i show, he loses his mind bc he had a jack supposedly which is obviously a great hand to c/r on this flop."

This is just so unimaginably bad. Yet in 2007, it worked almost always, so how can I say it was wrong? I sometimes feel that my approach to poker has gotten too technical and that I did have some magic many years ago that would be really useful to still have today. Or maybe I should just keep making solvers proud since it is working just fine and there's no need to second guess myself.

Last edited by Sean Snyder; 12-10-2018 at 04:37 AM.
12-10-2018 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean Snyder
And the way I played and specifically tried to win hands in mind boggling ways reminds me of almost every hand Mike L has texted me the past year or so. It's almost like he actually went through my posts and found some insane spews I would make that somehow worked and just texts me one every few months as a joke and pretends he was the one that played it.
i know exactly what you mean and mike l. is the undisputed king of those hands and i probably play about 10 of them every year and somehow i win about 4 of them and it reaffirms my opinion that i'm the smartest person that has ever played poker
12-10-2018 , 04:55 AM
oh and i know you didn't ask but having played the hand that way the river is the snappiest snappety snap call against anyone who played poker in 2007

Last edited by stinkypete; 12-10-2018 at 04:58 AM. Reason: the TT hand you linked
12-10-2018 , 05:03 AM
I'll keep that in mind 10 years from now when I play my next hand of limit holdem. I was going to make a joke about playing against a time traveler from 2007 but every time I play 40 they play like 2007 anyway. The only player that got stronger at limit holdem at those stakes is the rake.
12-10-2018 , 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean Snyder
I'll keep that in mind 10 years from now when I play my next hand of limit holdem. I was going to make a joke about playing against a time traveler from 2007 but every time I play 40 they play like 2007 anyway. The only player that got stronger at limit holdem at those stakes is the rake.
Nah it's a bit different now. Nobody except mike l. makes that river bluff anymore cuz nobody ever folds to the raise.
12-10-2018 , 05:15 AM
Laughed until I cried at this one:

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...50&page=0&vc=1

We need to go to Bestia soon. I have to drive up to use my box in the near future. And maybe cash out some Commerce chips since I have no idea why I'd go there let alone play there.
12-10-2018 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean Snyder
Laughed until I cried at this one:

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...50&page=0&vc=1

We need to go to Bestia soon. I have to drive up to use my box in the near future. And maybe cash out some Commerce chips since I have no idea why I'd go there let alone play there.
thanks for linking that thread. i wouldn't have known it at the time but it later turned out that was my money gabe was losing!

Last edited by stinkypete; 12-10-2018 at 05:22 AM. Reason: nevermind wrong gabe
12-10-2018 , 05:27 AM
but now that you've brought it up it's definitely time for a 2006-2007 commerce 2+2 reunion
12-10-2018 , 05:33 AM
I wish I could relive the moment at Campanile when Dave Fromm told us the story about Ray Zee telling him to carry a pocket knife for self defense and how to use it
12-10-2018 , 06:52 AM
gems

12-10-2018 , 06:17 PM
Nothing makes me question my career choice more than playing day time limit hold’em.
12-11-2018 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
gems

Sound strategy
12-11-2018 , 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Snyder
If <200 posts in >5 years somehow comes back to bite me in the ass, then oops.
It depends on what job you want.

Obviously if you will be public facing someone will scour your history (at that point you should probably just pay someone to do a background search on you, so you don't get surprised yourself).

If you're applying for a job whose expected turnover rate is on par with the time it would take to go through your Twitter history obviously nobody gives a ****.

For most jobs, it's probably the overall pattern that matters. If you made 5 posts and each one of them uses the N-word, it's way worse than if you made 50,000 posts and 0.01% used the N-word.

I do a quick search of applicants' online histories. Unless something really unusual shows up on the first page, I'm spending less than 30 seconds on it total. Maybe they're a raging anti-Semite or craps degen or hentai fanatic, but as long as they are not obvious about it, we'll be fine.
12-12-2018 , 12:38 AM
Etiquette question...

Live 20/40 O8:

I get dealt my cards, one of which has a very obvious thumbnail indention in the middle of the back that has to be intentional. I look at my cards and it's the A.

Do you call for a new setup?
Does your answer depend on which card it was?
Or the stakes of the game, or whether it's a fun group or a serious group of players?
12-12-2018 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain R
Etiquette question...

Live 20/40 O8:

I get dealt my cards, one of which has a very obvious thumbnail indention in the middle of the back that has to be intentional. I look at my cards and it's the A.

Do you call for a new setup?
Does your answer depend on which card it was?
Or the stakes of the game, or whether it's a fun group or a serious group of players?

yes
no
no
12-12-2018 , 12:55 AM
After the hand though.
12-12-2018 , 01:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain R
Etiquette question...

Live 20/40 O8:

I get dealt my cards, one of which has a very obvious thumbnail indention in the middle of the back that has to be intentional. I look at my cards and it's the A.

Do you call for a new setup?
Does your answer depend on which card it was?
Or the stakes of the game, or whether it's a fun group or a serious group of players?
0. In triple draw every 0, 2, 3 and even 4 spotter eventually gets damaged and the 0, 2, 3 spotters get damaged to the point where individual cards are potentially recognizable. Same thing for 0 spotters in Omaha 8. Sometimes shuffle machines get frisky and put very distinct dents in the back of cards. Pretty strong possibility that nobody marked it intentionally.

1. Ask for a new card if possible. New setup if not

2. No

3. Yes. Playing lower than 40/80 I mention it to the dealer and just let it go if they don't feel like doing their job. Game is already slow and small enough, the card likely wasn't intentionally marked so nobody else will ever notice and I don't pay attention to anything so I won't notice unless I get it. My personal reality is that every squeeze card is going to get mangled, so new setups will be common anyway.

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Originally Posted by that_pope
After the hand though.
Yes.
12-12-2018 , 01:57 AM
Yeah, I think the probability that it was intentional (A vs. another card) + actual material impact ($takes) + slowing down the game makes me debate whether to call it out or not. The lower these are, the less likely I am to call it out, wasn't sure if I was being nitty or not for pointing it out, since literally nobody else ever does. And cards are constantly getting marked unintentionally in O8.

I'm about 95% sure it's intentional though, most marks are minor, but this was a big fat nail pressed about 30% through the card.
12-12-2018 , 02:02 AM
No one else points out marked aces in a 20/40 O8 game? That is bizarre to me. Every one else you play with is a cheater?

I would definitely point it out, but also play that hand as is if I wanted to. Nothing wrong with that.
12-12-2018 , 03:01 AM
If it's a super visible mark you could argue you should refuse the card before you even look at it if you're going to be 100% ethical. The counter is that an angleshooter could gain an edge by marking aces and having ethical players throw them away, so the actual correct play is to deal with it after the hand.

If there's a clearly marked card, intentional or not, the ethical play is always to tell the dealer. If you're in LA and some douchenozzle is going to ask for a new setup at the first opportunity anyway, I wouldn't out you as a cheater for letting it slide.
12-12-2018 , 06:10 AM
At Canterbury most cards in every setup they bring are dented like that, so I don't bother mentioning it.

I only point out a bad card if it's actually ripped.
12-13-2018 , 05:53 PM
There seem to be a paradox a lot of so call good rep regs are absolute scum bag when they can get away it. But will act super nice outside of ex. in chat. It super tilting how much of a tapeworm you are to the poker world.
12-13-2018 , 05:57 PM
Doing things like playing btn and sitting out and instant sit back in when third player join to get button again. Play one hand and sit out. Whoever Claydavis is on Kings is the one that constantly doing this. I am pretty sure I know who he is. If you happen to be friend with that douche you should call him out. Also it might seem like I am complaining about the same thing but this dude takes it to a different level will actively sit out in one 3way and join two other table that I am sitting to play head up to gain an edge.

Last edited by DonJuan; 12-13-2018 at 06:11 PM.
12-13-2018 , 11:16 PM
Diffent things irritate diffent people. Like having 3 diffent screen names in a month seems super uncool and unnecessary from the perspective of people that have used the same name since day 1, especially when it says you can’t have multiple names when logging in. Pick your battles I guess (but he does do some
Silly stuff)
12-29-2018 , 08:25 PM
Playing 50/100 last night at Ameristar BH, best dealer in the house got in 26 hands in his down, only 2 walks. They should give that guy a bonus

      
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