Thanks for the compliment coming from DD. I was anticipating 7th or 8th at one point. But thanks for knocking out a few ppl for me!!

Also it felt very intimidating (and rightfully so) for me to have you to my direct left where it mattered most.

you might have missed it a few months ago when a site admin banned one of our strong posters

I do remember that. I thought that was overturned. That's a shame if not and certainly doesn't help this situation. He was definately a valuable member here.

And a CAZ regular won the 10k Stud8, and it wasn't DeathDonkey!

It just takes half a brain to know who the single person you need to worry about criticizing is; luckily most people here seem to have that qualification met.

Not sure if it was overturned or not, but since banned player immediately made multiple accounts to cheat the ban, it's not really relevant. If anything is discouraging people from participating in the forum, it's BBB and his group of cronies who think they should be above the rules that apply to us non favored members.

I don't think this is a game of memorizing certain play's. It's a game of learning how to think your way through a hand. I think the way too learn is through a lot of practice and repitition. Discussing hands in a forum is one way to learn and practice. I don't think the learning ever ends. I do get it that some players have moved on to different games.

man i totally forgot about the whole "keeping the pot smaller" debacle. that may have been the jump-the-shark moment for this subforum, lol

this is an interesting take!

The sorry state of limit hold'em might, just might, have something do to with it.

(Babar, am I one of your cronies? I simply cannot tell.)

If you can get banned by the owner of the site, then start up extra accounts with no moderator doing anything about it, you are.

How's the weather in your reality? Sky color?

Think you're in the in crowd.

In all seriousness there is one instance where I think BBB and His Cronies did do something wrong.

A few years ago, someone posted something very helpful. So helpful, in fact, that someone else replied, "Wow, you're going to post that for free?"

The helpful post disappeared.

It's kind of a symptom of the illness but gives a lot of insight into why this board is the way it is.

I thought it was understood that really good players posted here for a variety of non-financial reasons. Some are just super nice people. Some are willing to give general advice in hopes you'd pay for more specific advice. Some want their egos stroked or prove they're better than others. As a net beneficiary of advice, I never really excavated the phenomenon and respected the spectrum of reasons people had for posting good advice.

But I think the attitude that there exist things too valuable to be posted in public is a self fulfilling prophecy. I think there should have been an open discussion on what criteria needs to be met when a strategy post (which doesn't violate the TOS, e.g. posting copyrighted material) is deleted. Is author's remorse sufficient? An outside complaint? Friends with a mod? Friends with an admin?

This should have been a bigger deal. (I never saw the helpful post so I can't verify any of the claims personally.)

That's really my only gripe about the LHE modding in the past 10 years.

If you think anything I said is inaccurate, feel free to explain. It's all true as far as I can tell. The so-called "helpful member who got banned" has posted in this thread within the last few days, so it's certainly ridiculous to suggest that his "banning" is a reason that the quality of this site has gone downhill. In reality, he threw a hissy fit after going out of his way to mock the owner of the site.

The order of events is wrong.

The extra accounts predated the ban and he openly switched between them for months.

If you had a complaint about the extra accounts, you should have reported them way before the main account got banned.

No, the account he is currently using was definitely created after the ban, in addition to the at least two accounts he had before the ban. Maybe you didn't notice it or didn't realize it was him. I've gotten tired of bothering the site owner with things like this, and BBB has clearly showed favoritism towards his buddies, and speculated on my psychological state when I have contacted him about the issues, so I've given up on it. Just couldn't let such a deliberately misleading excuse for the decline in the forum go uncorrected.

If he is currently using any account, then, yes, I didn't notice it. I thought he just stopped posting.

Callipygian, I just tried to send you a PM but your inbox is full.

i got banned from a composers forum for arguing in the debate section and critiquing people's music in the critique section. hands down, i was the only useful poster on that idiotic forum, but they banned me because they thought i was too harsh. really tho, i think they used the forum as a pseudo social life instead of it's intended purpose.
anyone that pushes for a ban of someone that has everything to give and nothing to gain, needs to rethink why they're here in the first place.

Rob. I think you need to chill. I’ll try and clarify some things for you.

My other account was unbanned but as I said I’m done posting strategy as a result of many of my exchanges. My main account is on my computer where I don’t know the password or email address so I had another account for my phone. That got banned so
I made a new one. Personally I don’t really see why you care if somebody has 1 account or 17. You should only care about the quality of the information being posted, not the quantity of usernames providing it.


Also contrasts to guys that made deep runs in the series so far. Nice job tiger and DD. Hopefully some fun sweats left in the main.

The thing about LHE is that anyone playing seriously at the 20/40+ level should have already invested what ought to represent <2% of their playing bankroll into purchasing the well known solver that exists. The information it provides someone willing to put in the work will far outweigh any forum discussion. Someone posted a hand in HSLHE in 2016 that generated a 1 month long discussion that contained what I felt was some questionable advice. For fun I just spent 5 minutes going through the hand on the solver including the time it took to generate the game tree to see how both players played their individual hands and got to see how both players should be playing their actual ranges. It's really that simple for the most part. At least when it comes to individual hands.

You're still posting strategy in other forums, just not in this one. I don't understand why, since the guy you have the beef with owns both forums, but it's certainly not because you're permanently banned, as BBB implied.

Really I don't care in general how many usernames someone has if they're not using it for nefarious purposes, but your first alternative name was a slight modification on the name of a poster believed to be a bad player, and your first posts with that account were offering to play poker with people for big money, hoping others would think you were the bad player. Maybe the whole thing was a put on, but it fooled a lot of people, including me for awhile, which I didn't care for. Then of course your new account name was created just to mock me, and you have insulted me using the account on this forum.

If you are finished posting strategy here, I certainly would prefer you just get out, as you certainly aren't adding anything worthwhile. Or you could go back to making strategy posts with so many typos and grammatical errors that they're near incoherent. Or you can continue to pout and lurk while reading posts by others and thinking to yourself how much smarter you are than anyone else. I don't really care at this point.

What I do care about now is moderators blaming the lack of strategy posts on a fear of being banned, when you were only banned for openly mocking strategy posts by Mason Malmuth, the owner of the forum. This all while some players are discouraged and asked not to post so many hand examples they want feedback on.

i don't think you could make a more "rob" post if you tried. A+

Yep, 100% honest and straightforward, unlike the posts of the moderators here.

i never knew that i had cronies, but now i'm having to do a serious re-evaluation of things!


here's the google dictionary definition:

a close friend or companion.
"he went gambling with his cronies"
synonyms: friend, companion, bosom friend, intimate, confidant, confidante, familiar, associate, accomplice, comrade; More


based on this, it seems like i have lots of cronies. and so do you! and rob too! we all do!