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10-07-2018 , 04:58 PM
I'm going to have the opportunity to play some LHE for a couple of days. I haven't played in years. I used to play 20-40+ regularly. If I was going to read one book to help me get back in the right frame of mind, what would you all recommend.
10-07-2018 , 05:01 PM
The Intelligent Poker Player by Philip Newall
10-07-2018 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bicyclekick
The Intelligent Poker Player by Philip Newall
I've never read that one, so I'll definitely read it. Seems like overkill for donking it up in 20-40 live, though.

Any other suggestions?
10-07-2018 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
If I was going to read one book to help me get back in the right frame of mind, what would you all recommend.
https://www.amazon.com/Slouching-Tow.../dp/0060573112
10-08-2018 , 10:29 AM
Welcome to the Goat Rodeo by Tom Barlow is excellent.
10-08-2018 , 11:15 AM
To beat live 20-40 hold'em, Small-Stakes Hold'em by Miller, Sklansky, & Malmuth should do the trick.

To get into the right frame of mind for the game, try this:

https://www.amazon.com/Three-Stooges-Scrapbook-Updated/dp/1613740743
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ETA: If you learn best by videos, try this: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059798/
10-08-2018 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
It's not just limit, it is poker. I would be shocked to learn of many forums on 2p2 that have seen a year over year increase in traffic. Sports threads are slower seems to be the biggest indication of this to me.
anyway, M.@s0.n claimed that we were in for a poker boom so I am sure its coming just around the corner.
10-08-2018 , 10:43 PM
I probably should have worded my request differently, but thanks for the suggestions nonetheless.

I'll read the Newall book and probably will flip through the Stoxtrader book (WITHG) on the plane ride. I assume that the advice in that one is still pretty relevant.
10-09-2018 , 05:59 AM
nah the stoxtrader book is dawg****
10-10-2018 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bicyclekick
nah the stoxtrader book is dawg****
Really? I don't know that I thought it was great, but I thought it had a few good ideas (which is really all I expect from a poker book). I can imagine people not thinking highly of it, but dawg**** is a lot worse an assessment than I would have inspected

Now I feel like I need to read it to figure out why it's so bad. But maybe when I actually get back to playing on a regular basis.
10-11-2018 , 02:12 AM
I offered up a far better book. One which i think will provide you much better thought processes than the dumpy stox book. don't waste your time
10-12-2018 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bicyclekick
I offered up a far better book. One which i think will provide you much better thought processes than the dumpy stox book. don't waste your time
I thought that Stox book was excellent at the time. Has it lost it's relevance like HFAP? I haven't read it in years.
10-12-2018 , 05:39 PM
yeah its strategies and empirical data is old
10-12-2018 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bicyclekick
I offered up a far better book. One which i think will provide you much better thought processes than the dumpy stox book. don't waste your time
Yeah, I'm definitely going to follow your rec. Received it a couple of days ago, but haven't cracked it open yet.
10-12-2018 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bicyclekick
yeah its strategies and empirical data is old
This makes more sense to me. Out of curiosity, did you think it was terrible when it came out or is it just that the game has passed it by.
10-13-2018 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
This makes more sense to me. Out of curiosity, did you think it was terrible when it came out or is it just that the game has passed it by.
i was never excited about it.
10-15-2018 , 05:26 PM
Doing too much learning without solvers is a poor use of time. (assuming you're not a beginner)

Last edited by bicyclekick; 10-16-2018 at 01:28 AM.
10-20-2018 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bicyclekick
Doing too much learning without solvers is a poor use of time. (assuming you're not a beginner)
I've been a winning player for many years. I still make a lot of mistakes. These are mistakes I realize when doing a session review and do not need the use of a solver. If I were too fix these mistakes I would have an elite win rate.

Is making use of a solver going to significantly improve my game? I play mostly 20/40 live. I am not the number crunching type. I am not great with computers.

I'm up for doing whatever I can to improve my game. Money is no objective. I'm just concerned that a solver may be over my head or difficult to use. I get frustrated with stuff like this. Will this really help me in the games I play in? I'm not playing against geniuses.

Thanks!
10-20-2018 , 10:02 AM
Player A calls the river and player B tables a busted draw. Next Player A says "Is that a straight?" .... Is the dealer required to answer? Or is the dealer required to say he can't answer? It seems to me the dealer should be required one way or another so it's consistent. Back in the day, when poker was friendly, the dealer was allowed to read the board to help keep the game friendly for new players. .... This is 1/3 at 6:45am but that shouldn't matter IMO.

Last edited by brick; 10-20-2018 at 10:09 AM.
10-20-2018 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by brick
Player A calls the river and player B tables a busted draw. Next Player A says "Is that a straight?" .... Is the dealer required to answer? Or is the dealer required to say he can't answer? It seems to me the dealer should be required one way or another so it's consistent. Back in the day, when poker was friendly, the dealer was allowed to read the board to help keep the game friendly for new players. .... This is 1/3 at 6:45am but that shouldn't matter IMO.
There is a thread on this in brick and mortar. Everyone but me says the dealer should read the hand.
10-20-2018 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Is making use of a solver going to significantly improve my game? I play mostly 20/40 live. I am not the number crunching type. I am not great with computers.
If the game is good and rarely shorthanded a solver is going to help very little. They're only of any use in heads up spots. They can actually hurt your game if you're not smart about how you use them. There's at least one very prominent guy in the LHE solver community who is legit terrible in multiway spots and it's at least partly because he takes solver concepts and applies them incorrectly multiway.
10-20-2018 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ninefingershuffle
There is a thread on this in brick and mortar. Everyone but me says the dealer should read the hand.
Everyone is right
10-20-2018 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
If the game is good and rarely shorthanded a solver is going to help very little. They're only of any use in heads up spots. They can actually hurt your game if you're not smart about how you use them. There's at least one very prominent guy in the LHE solver community who is legit terrible in multiway spots and it's at least partly because he takes solver concepts and applies them incorrectly multiway.
uhh, except monkersolver does multiway...
10-20-2018 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bicyclekick
uhh, except monkersolver does multiway...
I haven't looked at monker. Was referring to gto solvers. That said, I guess I gotta look at monker

      
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