Yes, that's the hand I was referring to where he got the bluff thru.

I'm also a little confused as to where anybody said he wasn't a great NL player. The discussion was whether he was playing like a "HS bot" or employing a different approach in a NL game w straddles, sometimes 3 blinds, etc.

I'd imagine the game runs for the same way reason any HS game runs - the donators can easily afford to play it and the pros are easily making enough, as far as they're concerned, to offset any miniscule cost of having hole cards seen. If anything, a pro on the stream may get benefits (wearing patches for money, future paid media gigs, future invites to soft games) if he plays his cards right, that outweigh any cost of showing hole cards.

I played in seat 9. My 7th trip to L.A. and my first time meeting several of those guys. Jean, Joshua and Chris were terrific humans. To anyone thinking about making the trip: Do it! I always have a complete blast and feel treated like a vip at the bike. Its why I keep coming back. The recently rekindled 40 game was super good!

Dan basically repeated Sean's analysis on a podcast with horrible double audio.
None of the analysis of the hand (either from Dan or Sean) included any of this. Dan just walks through ranges, says he has a key blocker, and that it was a good time to bluff. He's amazed that this hand is folded by his opponent, but thinks his own play is standard/good at least at some frequency. Maybe he's not sharing his opponent-specific adjustments, but Dan's explanation of the entire hand is a dry telling of how to play your range vs. opponent ranges as the board comes out rather than a fun tale of long history vs. an opponent.

That's awesome DoT! Thanks for letting us know.

He's a bot in the sense that he's a winner in the game and employs a taggy strategy. Ryan or Dan himself even said in the commentary once that he prefers not to get into 'gambly' spots which is fair.

You're not going to see him empty the clip like Tom Dwan or exploit hard with K2o like Garrett. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO3Fv-G0JAM That is not to say he never bluffs. From what I've seen he bluffs in a very optimal way if that makes any sense. I haven't played with Dan personally, but from what I've seen I think he plays his image and executes his strategy well.

Never played w/ Dan. Have played w/ Aaron. From what I've seen from Dan on stream and Aaron in person, both are very good players.

Glad to hear you had a good time. Wish I had seen you guys playing on the stream.

My opinion is that the cost of having your hole cards and play exposed is quite significant. In the case of NLHE, it is rather apparent from the majority of even remotely meaningful hands in the bigger games that many regs have done little to no work studying the game away from the table and even when they are choosing the right hands to do things, their actual frequencies are not even close to what they should be. If I were to play on a stream again it would have to be either NLHE where I feel I could play poorly and still generate a winrate or games that are hard to play terribly on the first round and that I don't play very often (LHE oddly at the top of that list, followed by cap NLHE). My 1 experience on PNIA was great and something I'd happily do again, but I'd strongly prefer to never expose my play in any other big bet games (especially cap) or lowball games. Plus I wouldn't want anyone getting a hernia from laughing at how tight I play split pot games

Both PNIA and LATB are great products that provide a ton of entertainment value. I know I watch both regularly. But free coaching that can both help players improve to the point where they may be competing with me for the same money or to help people I'm playing with get better at beating me is about the last thing I'm interested in in the 2018 poker landscape.

Do you think it's impossible that these regs are embarking on a disinformation campaign because they know people are watching? Or that these guys that are making a decent living from playing are just stumbling into winning pots?

They aren't stumbling into winning pots, they are playing winning poker for the average lineup they play in.

A guy once won a million dollars playing 100/200 LHE online essentially mashing the rightmost button because it worked really well. Right up until it didn't. My personal preference is for "until it didn't" to stay away for as long as possible for any game, but especially ones that are close to the range of stakes I play daily. Even in 2018, people aren't working nearly as hard on their game as they could/should be and I'd rather they did it by anteing up and letting me buy them a few drinks than by watching it for free online without me knowing they've seen it.

Alrighty, so I misread that situation.

I’ve played w both though with dan only briefly. I have a good deal of sh and fr experience w Aaron and first off, both are good peeps. Aaron plays very well when sober but gets a bit too laggy in lhe when drinking. Extremely good amateur player though. Def among the best in that pool.

I must be a degen since I still remember hands I railed from 10 years ago. One of my favorite Phil Ivey moments.

Sean, really miss your degen stories and random chipporn pics. Hope to meet you one day. Jesse made a post not too long ago about running super hot just by game selecting - quitting when the game is bad, staying when the game is good. How important is that for $ and sanity at your stakes?

The majority of the games I play tend to break very quickly when they get bad, so it's not a huge concern for me. In general when I've been doing well (my first 6-7 months back to playing live), I tend to play from the time the game starts to when it breaks. When I've been doing poorly (the last 7 months), my preference is to be nowhere near a poker table once a session starts going downhill.

It also depends on what I'm playing. Despite not playing much mix from 2013-2017, I feel very confident in the work I've done away from the table, and I also feel that the mix of games in my regular game very heavily favors me, so my game quitting decisions are generally going to be based on life happiness and whether or not it's good for the future of the game for me to leave. Meanwhile, my NLHE game is much stronger than any other individual game, but in LA when I sit in a NLHE game it is because it is very soft, so I won't be playing long once that changes.

Thank you kindly for this. Your last like 3 posts in a row was very informative and a phenomenal read.

Hope to one day get a chance to learn mix games in the future but still to this day enjoy LHE too much especially HUHU and 6max games live or online

4-handed 40/80 mix, big O
I raise, sb calls, bb 3!, I 4!, bb caps.

BB shows up with (A67)23. Is this over-aggro or am I just salty?

Both.

Well the salty part was obviously true, glad I got a +1 for both.

Nice to meet you, man. You’re a cool dude. Thanks for the kind words. See you in Vegas.

Yeah I'd never want the lowball and mix stuff shown, cuz there's so much most half-decent players don't know about those games yet. Watching cards up SCOOP/WCOOP replays showed me things I never considered. I hope to learn stud hi someday but it's not going so well. Though I've never gleaned much from watching a lot of NL cards up, for one reason or another. Maybe it's no coincidence that Seidel (one of most underrated NL MTT players ever?) is also one of the most secretive players and despised hole cameras more than most.

Anyways, I'm a little tied up atm writing letters of disapproval, on moral grounds.

I'm almost completely convinced that Erik Seidel plays nl tournaments on Global Poker under the name seidizzle, I've played with him a bunch recently.

There's the name, but also that he plays quite the unique style that I've never seen an online reg play, and crushes.

I mean Seidel is unquestionably a smart dude with a history of playing above the rim, fwiw.

Just to let you guys know even though my graphs looks great and I make good money I am not happy. I suffer from the pain of the past I would trade everything just to get the respect of all the big timer ex. Zomg.

Actually I won't be posting anymore graphs it just too much pain I suffer. It not fun winning money and not have any real 2+2 friends. The truth is I don't even like online poker and I dream of one day stepping in casino to meet all my idol but the fear of getting rejected keep holding me back it a vicious cycle.

Edit: I wasn't planning on posting my 6 max stats for fear of being look down. But if 2+2 taught me anything it that you have to be willing to hear criticism.

Someday I’ll have a winning month and be able to post my graph.

Im in the midst of a big upswing and donjuan had to come in and remind me im just running hot.

Seriously though, nice graphs.